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Any info regarding Lewis Redding

Terri Morley Terri Morley

posted on August 21, 2010 and updated on August 21, 2010

My children are decendants of Lewis Redding and Lottie Moses. Lottie was born in 1888 to Ann and Ike Moses and was an original enrollee at age 13 on the Dawes rolls.My children are currently college age and wondering about their possible cherokee heritage.They are currently enrolled as one/eighth Choctaw, however we are wondering about the background and possible Cherokee blood of Lewis Redding. Any info on his date of birth, death, their marriage etc would be greatly appreciated.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 21, 2010

lewis redding m. lottie moses b. 1888 (ike moses m. ann ?)

you should get a copy of the enrollment application and census card. have you tried to search with google for these names? sometimes that will disclose the testimony in the case.

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Moses 0 M MCR3737 P
Choctaw Moses Bicey 0 F MCR3737 P
Choctaw Moses Sallie Gamil 0 F MCR3737 P
Choctaw Moses Elsie 1 F FULL MCR3737 1269 MCR
Choctaw Moses Edna 5 F FULL MCR3737 1268 MCR
Choctaw Moses Lottie 13 F FULL MCR3737 1267 MCR
Choctaw Moses Nicey 14 F FULL MCR3737 1266 MCR
Choctaw Moses Ann 27 F FULL MCR3737 1265 MCR
Choctaw Moses Ike 35 M FULL MCR3737 1264 MCR
Choctaw Tushcanola 0 M MCR3737 P

p=parent.
you should see the testimony and circumstances in this enrollment application. MCR=mississippi choctaw refused.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Lewis Redding
Name: Lewis Redding
[Louis Redding]
Home in 1920: Everidge, Choctaw, Oklahoma
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s name: Lottie
Father’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lewis Redding 25
Lottie Redding 29
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Everidge, Choctaw, Oklahoma; Roll T625_1456; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 61; Image: 14.
born in texas usually means that he might be mississippi choctaw.
he is listed as white and lottie is listed as indian.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Lewis A Redding
Name: Lewis A Redding
County: Choctaw
State: Oklahoma
Birthplace: Texas
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1894
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1851696
DraftBoard: 0
this card is available on ancestry.com
he says he was born in sulphur springs, TX.

i don’t know if this is your lewis or not. birthdate doesn’t match. the family did come from TX, and possible cherokee area mentioned.

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 3, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll T623_1847; Enumeration District: 124.
this record might be stronger.

you will have to look at these records.

since his parent is not clear, you might get a copy of his social security application. it came ito effect 1/1/1937 and he would have also filed a delayed birth certificate for proof of age. these documents would show his parents, his birthplace and date.

in any case, he did not apply for enrollment and is not listed on the dawes roll. native heritage is a possibility, though.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

D. Redding D. Redding

posted on September 24, 2010

Terri, my children are descendants of Lewis Redding and Lottie Moses, too, and I have done a lot of research on both of them. Lottie is full blood Choctaw with a roll # and I have Lewis’ parents, siblings, etc. Suzanne Shatto is correct, Lewis was born in Sulpher Springs, TX. There is a lot of information on his family available. Please contact me directly at DKR812@aol.com and I will share my information with you.

Regards,

D. Redding