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Mary, sister of Susan Stewart

Tazuskala42 Tazuskala42

posted on May 17, 2012

I am searching for information about Mary Stewart, born 1882, sister of Susan Stewart whose obit was submitted on this site by Dale Faust.
Am trying to find out who she married. There is a Mary Stewart who married my grandfather Coleman Matthews Taylor and lived in Pine Bluff, Arkansas. Would like to know any information about Mary. I know she was an enrolled Choctaw and lived with her sister Louisa who married Allen H. Collins and had a daughter named Nona.
Any help would be appreciated. Tom

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 17, 2012

one year, but no location. no year of death. no indication about how you know she was enrolled in a tribe in oklahoma.

was the obituary for mary stewart about your relative?

did louisa stewart collins or mary stewart taylor have a daughter named nona?

are you saying that you found one mary stewart who married coleman matthews taylor? or this is your mary stewart?

this post is confusing to me.

the only thing i would know from this post is that your grandfather is coleman matthews taylor who lived in pine bluff, AR.

1900 United States Federal Census about Coleman M Taylor
Name: Coleman M Taylor
Age: 21
Birth Date: Aug 1879
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Madison, Grant, Arkansas
[Grant]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Henry B Taylor
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Name: Louise Taylor
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry B Taylor 53
Louise Taylor 45
Benjamin H Taylor 22
Coleman M Taylor 21
David F Taylor 19
Rosette Taylor 16
Henriette Taylor 15
Joseph L Taylor 11
Geneva A Taylor 6
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Madison, Grant, Arkansas; Roll: 60; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 39; FHL microfilm: 1240060.

maybe this is your grandfather.

Arkansas, County Marriages Index, 1837-1957 about C M Taylor
Name: C M Taylor
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1881
Residence: Pine Bluff, Jefferson, Arkansas
Spouse’s Name: Mary Stewart
Spouse’s Age: 23
Spouse’s Residence: Rison, Cleveland, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 24 Feb 1907
Marriage License Date: 23 Feb 1907
Marriage County: Jefferson
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 983112

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Coleman Matthews Taylor
Name: Coleman Matthews Taylor
County: Jefferson
State: Arkansas
Birth Date: 22 Aug 1879
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1530465
DraftBoard: 1

this draft card is available on ancestry.com.

1910 United States Federal Census about Calerman Taylor
Name: Calerman Taylor
[Coleman Taylor]
Age in 1910: 28
Birth Year: 1882
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Pine Bluff Ward 3, Jefferson, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Mary Taylor
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Calerman Taylor 28
Mary Taylor 27
Olin Taylor 1 9/12
1
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Pine Bluff Ward 3, Jefferson, Arkansas; Roll: T624_54; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 0118; Image: 966; FHL microfilm: 1374067

1920 United States Federal Census about Mary Taylor
Name: Mary Taylor
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Pine Bluff Ward 4, Jefferson, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Coleman Taylor
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Coleman Taylor 40
Mary Taylor 38
Olen Taylor 11
Vergia Taylor 9
James Taylor 1
[1 1/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Pine Bluff Ward 4, Jefferson, Arkansas; Roll: T625_67; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 142; Image: 1117.

1930 United States Federal Census about Mary A Taylor
Name: Mary A Taylor
[Mary A Caylor]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Pine Bluff, Jefferson, Arkansas
View Map
Marital Status: Widowed
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A Taylor 48
Olena Taylor 20
Dorothy Taylor 18
James W Taylor 11
Thomas J Freeman 52
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Pine Bluff, Jefferson, Arkansas; Roll: 79; Page: 16A; Enumeration District: 46; Image: 435.0; FHL microfilm: 2339814.

these are all common names. do you have her death certificate?

is this your relative?
Arkansas Death Index, 1914-1950 about Mary Ell Taylor
Name: Mary Ell Taylor
Estimated Birth Year: 1882
Age: 67
Death Day: 26
Death Month: Oct
Death Year: 1949
County: Jefferson
Volume Number: 58
Roll Number: 1949
Certificate Number: 11509

http://www.healthy.arkansas.gov/Pages/default.aspx
for a death certificate.

in addition, 1/1/1937 social security came into effect. she would have applied at that time, submitted a birth record to show proof of age. if she didn’t have a birth certificate, she would have submitted a delayed birth certificate. ask for both of these.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Tazuskala42 Tazuskala42

posted on May 17, 2012

Hello again. Sorry if we confused you. Susan’s sister Mary was Choctaw and her enrollment number was 9283. Susan’s was 9284 and third sister Louisa was 9285.
We have the census records but don’t think the one you cite from 1930 with Mary “A” Taylor and son James “W” is the right one.
We don’t have any death information about the Mary who was married to Coleman Matthews Taylor and no information about her parents so are not at all sure she is the one enrolled as Choctaw. The dates and locations seem about right, but we really don’t know.
The Mary Stewart who married Coleman is a mystery. There is a record of land ownership in Jefferson County, Arkansas under name of Mrs. Mary C. Taylor, who may be my grandmother….again…not sure. My father was James Edwin Taylor, born 1919 in Pine Bluff, Arkansas and that is all I know about him. He was never a part of my life.
Any help identifying him or Coleman’s Mary would be appreciated. Thanks, Tom

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 17, 2012

yes, i saw the land ownership record in jefferson county, AR, but the record was made before mary was married to coleman matthews taylor.

despite your lack of contact with james edwin stewart, you should gather records on him. skipping a generation in acquiring records is just asking for trouble.

do you have a birth certificate or delayed birth certificate from james edwin taylor? this would be the first document to get. it might give you more information on mary.

i was following a trail of records found by others. there are mistakes in records. how about the children? were they correct? did they live in that area? where do you think they were living in 1930? have you tried to find family trees with your relatives? try rootsweb worldconnect and ancestry.com first for that.

you say you want to find a mary stewart who had a sister susan stewart who married an allen collins?
is this information you know? or just information you found and are curious if it is the same information?

Dawes Results
Total Records: 6 Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Cowen Bales 0 M 3209 P
Choctaw Cowen Joseph Lee 1 M 1/4 3209 NR HARTSHORNE BB
Choctaw Cowen Susan 13 F 1/2 3209 NR HARTSHORNE BB
Choctaw Stewart Charles 0 M 3209 P
Choctaw Stewart Lottie 0 F 3209 P
Choctaw Stewart Mary 17 F 1/2 3209 NR HARTSHORNE BB

bb=by blood
p-parent

this is the card you think might be linked to your family?

the card# is the family group.

this name is common.

there are a couple of things you can do.
1) get a copy of the dawes record from either NARA or oklahoma historical society or maybe see if fold3.com has a copy of this dawes enrollment package. i actually recommend that you find more vital records about mary stewart taylor first. i would actually ignore the native records until i had sufficient information to know whether a particular native record was a record of a person in my family.
2) get a copy of mary’s death certificate, her obituary, her cemetery record, her marriage license, her wedding announcement in a historical newspaper. i STRONGLY advise you to do this.
3) get a copy of james edwin taylor’s birth certificate.
4) get a copy of mary stewart taylor’s social security application which would list parents.
5) correspond with others who have your family in their family tree.

gl.

Tazuskala42 Tazuskala42

posted on May 18, 2012

This is exactly what we’ve been trying to do. Tom’s tree on Ancestry.com is fairly extensive. We can’t seem to find any records other than census that refer to Mary. How do we go about getting a copy of James Edwin’s birth certificate as his information on Ancestry is listed as private and while we have tried to correspond with anyone who might know something about him, no one knows or will say anything because we think he is still living although very old. There is one other tree on Ancestry.com owned by Marilyn Martins called Taylor family tree which has the line down to Coleman and Mary. Have written to her and she claimed to know nothing of James Edwin, so we hit another dead end. Tom just turned 70 years old last week and would really like to know something of his father. He took the paternal DNA test at Ancestry and his closest match was someone who is from the same line of Taylors as Coleman, but the match is back a few generations. It’s really frustrating.
For Mary’s Social Sec. application, do we just contact them and ask? Have never done this. We don’t even know if Mary died in Arkansas or elsewhere.
Thanks, Kit and Tom

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 18, 2012

you should also look for other trees and correspond with the people who put those trees on the internet.

james edwin taylor’s birth certificate would be from vital records of the state where he was born. jefferson county, AR, county clerk might have a copy.
Jefferson County Recorder Office – Birth, Death, Marriage & Divorce Records

Jefferson County
PO Box 7433
Pine Bluff, AR 71611
Hours of Operation: 8:30AM-5PM CST
Phone: 870-541-5309
Real Estate: 870-541-5344
Assessor: 870-541-5338
Elections: 870-541-5323
Other: 870-541-5313
Recording Officer: County Circuit Clerk
Assessor Fax: 870-541-5335

http://www.healthy.arkansas.gov/programsServices/certificatesVitalRecords/Pages/BirthRecords.aspx

you can see that a descendant is qualified to get a copy:
Q: Who may order a birth certificate?

Answer: Arkansas Statute 20-18-305 allows release of birth records to specific persons who are related to the registrant and to his/her designated representatives, to academic research groups, and to persons who demonstrate a right to the record. Births over 100 years old may be released to the public.

Mail In Requests
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

isn’t this your mary?
Arkansas Death Index, 1914-1950 about Mary Ell Taylor
Name: Mary Ell Taylor
Estimated Birth Year: 1882
Age: 67
Death Day: 26
Death Month: Oct
Death Year: 1949
County: Jefferson
Volume Number: 58
Roll Number: 1949
Certificate Number: 11509

this was in my first reply to your inquiry.