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Ruth Spotted Bear

Scott Bashara Scott Bashara

posted on April 21, 2012 and updated on April 21, 2012

I am looking for family of Ruth Spotted Bear. Probably born around 19Teen – 1920’s. My father was her son. SHe married a Wilburn Clark or Wilbur, white man, worked the oil fields. There were 5 brothers all given up for adoption to a family named Bashara. in the late 1940’s early 1950’s. Only 2 of the 5 survive today and neither will discuss it. Any assistance would be very helpful. Thank You

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on April 21, 2012

ruth spotted bear b. ~1920’s m.wilburn clark

there are post-adoption services, if you contact the state adoption coordinator.

the 1940 census will be available soon. they are indexing it now.
http://www.ancestry.com/1940-census
right now, you could search by location.

where did you get the name ruth spotted bear? do you have any documents at all? how about the name of wilburn/wilbur clark/clarke? i am not finding any documents for a ruth spotted bear. and there are many possible wilbur/wilburn clark/clarke in oklahoma.

you give NO locations, which makes a search very difficult.

if her sons knew her name, you might find a reference in an obituary of one of the sons, maybe the social security application for one of the sons.
https://secure.ssa.gov/apps9/eFOIA-FEWeb/internet/main.jsp?action=SSA711_Instruction

what about a death certificate of one of the sons? a birth certificate?

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Scott Bashara Scott Bashara

posted on April 23, 2012

real fathers name was Wilbur or Wilburn Clark and his mother name was Ruth Spotted Bear. His grand parents ran a little store and gas station in Red Oak Oklahoma. He thinks his grandmothers name was Minnie Clark. They were born in Red Oak. He thinks they were adopted in 1946.

I’ll try to get more information.

And thank you for all that information

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on April 24, 2012

minnie must be associated with wilbur/wilburn clark and clark must be a married name.

red oak is in latimer county.

no birthdate/birthplace here. do you have your father’s birth certificate?

what about the deceased children in the family? names, birthdates, dates of death, places of death?

any obituaries?

1930 United States Federal Census about John V Clark
Name: John V Clark
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Red Oak, Latimer, Oklahoma
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Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Minnie Clark
Father’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
John V Clark 47
Minnie Clark 38
Noel Clark 20
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Red Oak, Latimer, Oklahoma; Roll: 1908; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 11; Image: 455.0; FHL microfilm: 2341642.

1920 United States Federal Census about J V Clark
Name: J V Clark
[J V Cram]
Age: 38
Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Gowen, Latimer, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Minnie Clark
Father’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J V Clark 38
Minnie Clark 28
William N Clark 9
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Gowen, Latimer, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1462; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 91; Image: 1031.

1920 United States Federal Census about Minnie Clark
Name: Minnie Clark
[Martins Clark]
[Minnie Cram]
[User-submitted-comment]
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1892
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Gowen, Latimer, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
[Widow]
Spouse’s Name: J V Clark
Father’s Birthplace: Indiana
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri

1910 United States Federal Census about John V Clark
Name: John V Clark
Age in 1910: 28
Birth Year: 1882
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Gowen, Latimer, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Minnie Clark
Father’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother’s Birthplace: North Carolina
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John V Clark 28
Minnie Clark 19
Henry C Clark 1/12
0
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Gowen, Latimer, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1257; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 0140; Image: 1037; FHL microfilm: 1375270.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about John Venable Clark
Name: John Venable Clark
County: Latimer
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 19 Apr 1881
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1851786
DraftBoard: 0
Source Citation: Registration Location: Latimer County, Oklahoma; Roll: 1851786; Draft Board: 0.

1900 United States Federal Census about John V Clark
Name: John V Clark
Age: 18
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: John W Clark
Mother’s Name: Josephine Clark
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members:
Name Age
John W Clark 51
Josephine Clark 40
John V Clark 18
Joe Clark 2/12
Lee A Johnson 20
Lula Martin 12
Inman Martin 8
Amanda Johnson 22
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1851; Enumeration District: 95; FHL microfilm: 1241851.

it doesn’t appear that the family applied for enrollment, but you can look and see if you find the family members.

so then you have the spotted bear surname.

no record on the dawes roll of surname spotted anything. the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906 in oklahoma/indian territory, and contains a list of applicants to the five major tribes in oklahoma. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma and location is a big factor in finding a nearby tribe.

but, if you were to search for spotted bear in oklahoma, you wouldn’t find a ruth, and this surname is not very prevalent in the area.

there is still no answer to where you got the name ruth spotted bear. spotted bear is more often a northern tribal name, like the sioux.

is there a birth certificate for the children? what were the children’s names. the 1940 census is now being indexed by ancestry.com. right now, you can look at the 1940 census by location.

have you attempted to contact the state adoption coordinator?

Scott Bashara Scott Bashara

posted on April 24, 2012

Hello again. Thank you for all this information.

Ruth Spotted Bear was given to be by my uncle. Possibly with her there is a South Dakota connection.

I did find the obit for another Uncle, but it lists the adoptive parents. Wilburn seems to be clear now.

“Charles Wilburn Bashara

Published: March 3, 2003

Obituaries/Death Notices
BASHARA Charles Wilburn, 64, passed away March 1, 2003 in OKC, OK. He was born Aug. 17, 1938 in Red Oak, OK to parents Karl Ayoub & Edna Elayne (Renshaw) Bashara. Charles worked as a sales associate for Sears . He proudly served his country in the U.S. Navy and was an active member in his community. He was a member of the South OKC Rotary Club , the OKC Running Club and Bic…

My hope is when the 1940 census is complete I’ll be able to find Charles Wilburn Clark.

I am not finding much either concerning the adoptive parents either, I dont see how researching them would help though.

I’ll keep searching and questioning family…..

Scott :-)

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on April 24, 2012

1930 United States Federal Census about Carl A Bashara
Name: Carl A Bashara
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Race: White
Home in 1930: Norman, Cleveland, Oklahoma
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Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Birthplace: Syria
Mother’s Name: Detha A Bashara
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Detha A Bashara 46
Carl A Bashara 23
Ellis K Bashara 21
Mary P Bashara 19
Ollie N Bashara 17
Irene A Bashara 10
Monseur J Bashara 8
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Norman, Cleveland, Oklahoma; Roll: 1898; Page: 14A; Enumeration District: 18; Image: 339.0; FHL microfilm: 2341632.

1920 United States Federal Census about Carl Bashara
Name: Carl Bashara
[Carl Bachara]
Age: 12
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1920: Norman, Cleveland, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: C A Bashara
Father’s Birthplace: Syria
[Syrian Arab Republic]
Mother’s Name: Detha Bashara
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
C A Bashara 47
Detha Bashara 36
Carl Bashara 12
Ellis Bashara 11
Mary Bashara 9
Ollie Bashara 6
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Norman, Cleveland, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1456; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 17; Image: 1021.

1910 United States Federal Census about Carl A Bashara
Name: Carl A Bashara
Age in 1910: 3
Birth Year: 1907
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Tuttle Ward 1, Grady, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: Charles A Bashara
Father’s Birthplace: Syrian Arab Republic
[Syria]
Mother’s Name: Datha A Bashara
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles A Bashara 38
Datha A Bashara 26
Carl A Bashara 3
Allis K Bashara 1 8/12
1
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Tuttle Ward 1, Grady, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1253; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0109; Image: 86; FHL microfilm: 1375266.

charles is a merchant in 1910 and 1920.

in 1930, carl is a geologist for an oil company.

if you want to browse the 1940 census, and i think you should do this, you might be able to find charles wilburn clark/bashara.

Enumeration District

District 39-12 RED OAK TOWN District 39-13 RED OAK TOWNSHIP OUTSIDE RED OAK TOWN E OF SECTION LINE FROM NW CORNER OF SECTION 27 TOWNSHIP 7 RANGE 21 TO SW CORNER OF SECTION 3 TOWNSHIP 5 RANGE 21 District 39-14 RED OAK TOWNSHIP OUTSIDE RED OAK TOWN W OF SECTION LINE FROM NW CORNER OF SECTION 27 TOWNSHIP 7 RANGE 21 TO SW CORNER OF SECTION 3 TOWNSHIP 5 RANGE 21

page 7. District 39-12 RED OAK TOWN

district: latimer, red oak, enumeration district 39-12, page 4A.
line 37
dwelling 80
owned house worth $200, not a farm
noel w. clark, head, white male, age 20, married, not in school, completed 8th grade, b. OK, lived in this same house april 1, 1935, is a stock clerk, works on road construction.
ruth m., wife, white female, age 21, married, not attending school, not sure of education, b. OK, was in a rented home in latimer, OK, doesn’t work
wilbur n., son, white male, age 1, single, b. OK
john r., son, white male, age 6 months, single, b. OK

page 4B, same district
household 82, owns the house worth $100
john v. clark, head, white male, age 54, married, completed H1 (is this first year high school?), b. AR, lived in the same house april 1, 1935, operator of own cafe
minnie o., wife, white female, age 45, married, completed H1, b. AR, lived in the same house, cook in a cafe.
dan?, grandson, white male, age 8, single, completed first grade, b. OK, lived in the same house april 1, 1935.

access through ancestry.com. your public library probably has a subscription.

instead of wilburn, might be wilbur n(oel)? maybe commonly used as wilburn?