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Found an old marriage certificate from 1904 says it's on the Territory

Ciera Ciera

posted on March 13, 2012

Rumor has it that our family comes from Oklahoma Choctaw, Today we found an old marriage licence/certificate for J.C. Scarberry and Myrtle Skaggs and wondering if anyone had any ideas of where to get more information.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 14, 2012 and updated on March 14, 2012

SCARBERRY, J H 24 TUSSEY, PEARL 15 3 AUG 1899 WILBURTON Mc8©457

not this one? this is from the choctaw marriage index.

but this one?
CHICKASAW NATION MARRIAGES
ARDMORE COURTHOUSE

GROOM INDEX
1895 – 1907

Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD
COPYRIGHT 27 APR 1992 Mary Kinard

S SURNAMES

BOOKS ROLL # A APR 1895©MAR 1896 # 469 B MAR 1896©MAR 1897 # 469 & 470 C MAR 1897©DEC 1898 # 470 D DEC 1898©JUN 1900 # 471 E JUN 1900©SEP 1901 # 471 F SEP 1901©NOV 1902 # 472 G NOV 1902©DEC 1903 # 472 & 473 H DEC 1903©JAN 1905 # 473 I NOV 1905©DEC 1905 # 474 J DEC 1905©DEC 1906 # 474 K 1907

THIS AREA COVERS COUNTIES OF McCLAIN, GARVIN, CARTER, STEPHENS,
GRADY, JEFFERSON, LOVE, MURRAY, PONTOTOC, JOHNSTON & MARSHALL.

CODES C COLORED NR NO RETURN UN NOT USED X INDEX

GROOM AGE BRIDE AGE DATE RESIDENCE BOOK©PAGE
SCARBURY, J C 31 SKAGGS, MYRTLE 16 27 JUL 1904 LONE GROVE H©252

http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chicmarriageindex.htm
To order copy of license send to:

Carter County Court Clerk
P.O. Box 37
Ardmore, OK 73402

$1.00 per copy when book and page are know
$1.50 for certified copy when book and page are known
Please send self addressed stamped envelope
Best to send money order or cashier’s check

Name: J C Scarberry
[? C Scarberry]
Age in 1910: 35
Birth Year: 1875
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Morgan, Carter, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Myrtle Scarberry
Father’s Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother’s Birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J C Scarberry 35
Myrtle Scarberry 22
Bertha Scarberry 5
Annie Scarberry 4

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Morgan, Carter, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1246; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 0053; Image: 1136; FHL microfilm: 1375259.

oklahoma became a state in 1907. before that, it was known as indian territory. most of oklahoma were native reservations, however, many people came to oklahoma because of business opportunity. the law was administered by territorial authority, out of forts.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
i don’t see scarberry on the dawes roll.

i don’t know if this is your myrtle:
Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Cherokee Mizer Sarah 0 F 4783 P
Cherokee Morris Albert 0 M 4783 P
Cherokee Skaggs William A 0 M 4783 P
Cherokee Skaggs Roy 2 M 1/32 4783 11458 CLAREMORE BB
Cherokee Skaggs Myrtle A 15 F 1/16 4783 11457 CLAREMORE BB
bb=by blood
p=parent

1910 United States Federal Census about Myrtle Scarberry
Name: Myrtle Scarberry
Age in 1910: 22
Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1910: Morgan, Carter, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: J C Scarberry
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas

so it wouldn’t seem to be the myrtle on the cherokee roll.

1900 United States Federal Census about Myrtle Shaggs
Name: Myrtle Shaggs
Age: 12
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1900: Township 5, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: John Shaggs
Mother’s Name: Manervia J Shaggs
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Shaggs 53
Manervia J Shaggs 51
Turner Shaggs 21
Calvin Shaggs 24
Rolan Shaggs 16
Katie Shaggs 15
Myrtle Shaggs 12
Ellen Henley 19
Jake Henley 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 5, Chickasaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: 1850; Enumeration District: 176; FHL microfilm: 1241850.

but this dawes record does seem to be myrtle’s family.

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Hunter John F 0 M MCR233 P
Choctaw Hunter Mary 0 F MCR233 P
Choctaw Skaggs Jacob 0 M MCR233 P
Choctaw Skaggs Myrtle 12 F 1/16 MCR233 MCR
Choctaw Skaggs Kate D 15 F 1/16 MCR233 MCR
Choctaw Skaggs Rollie 17 M 1/16 MCR233 MCR
Choctaw Skaggs Minera 53 F 1/8 MCR233 MCR

MCR=mississippi choctaw refused. mississippi choctaw is a separate tribe. some of the mississippi choctaw were enrolled as a result of choctaw council action.
township 5 south, range 1 west
http://www.okgenweb.org/okprojects/township-index.html

the family rented a farm in 1900. this indicates that they were not likely to have been enrolled in the choctaw tribe.

you should get a copy of the dawes packet, which includes census card, enrollment application and testimony.

fold3.com has some dawes packets but not yet this one. oklahoma historical society has copies of enrolled members, but may have all packets, i don’t know. you could contact them.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes.php

NARA http://www.archives.gov fort worth, TX office has copies.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/enroll/guide.htm

if you trace the family backwards in time, you may find they came from the southeastern reservation, AL/MS, and accepted tribal termination, received a land grant called choctaw scrip. this would show tribal affiliation but probably would not help you get enrolled. you would have to check about the mississippi choctaw tribe requirements and the MOWA tribe. i think the MOWA tribe is still enrolling.

i noticed that there are several people researching your family.
you might want to look at ancestry.com family records and rootsweb.com worldconnect records. contact the owners of the family trees and exchange information and sources.

this might be the family in 1880:
1880 United States Federal Census about Jacob S. Skaggs
Name: Jacob S. Skaggs
Age: 34
Birth Year: abt 1846
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1880: Precinct 5, Denton, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Molley A. Skaggs
Father’s Birthplace: Kentucky
Mother’s Birthplace: Kentucky
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob S. Skaggs 34
Molley A. Skaggs 30
Mary E. Skaggs 11
Sarah J. Skaggs 9
William T. Skaggs 7
Charles C. Skaggs 4
Tennessee V. Skaggs 3
Albert E. Skaggs 1
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 5, Denton, Texas; Roll: 1300; Family History Film: 1255300; Page: 161D; Enumeration District: 107; .
1870 United States Federal Census about Minerva Skaggs
Name: Minerva Skaggs
Age in 1870: 20
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1870: Precinct 3, Cooke, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Gainesville
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Jacob Skaggs 23
Minerva Skaggs 20
Mary E Skaggs 1
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Precinct 3, Cooke, Texas; Roll: M593_1580; Page: 241B; Image: 486; Family History Library Film: 553079.

texas also has tribes. location is a primary factor with tribal affiliation.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Brandon Eardman Brandon Eardman

posted on June 11, 2012

I know J.C. and Myrtle there my great great grand parents my grandfather Tim Scarberry was there grandson he is still living and can tell you whatever you need to know about them how are you kin to them looks like we might just be related