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Margaret H Margaret H

posted on March 8, 2012

Chief Moshulatubbee, Rebecca King Williams, Lucinda Williams McGraw, Isadora McGraw Keahey, Benjamin Franklin Keahey, Travis Carl Keahey, Me (Margaret Dora Keahey Harrelson. This is my lineage. I am looking for more information a out these people.
Thank you!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 8, 2012

my comment is that you are missing spouses in this. also, it is a little confusing about the maiden name/married name thing.

it would probably be a good thing to put your family tree online, like at rootsweb.com – free worldconnect database and ancestry.com – a subscription database, if you are inclined to get a subscription. this way, others in your family can contact you and share sources and information.

Moshulatubbee King was born Abt. 1778 in Choctaw Nation Miss., and died September 30, 1838 in Leflore co., near Latham, Ok.. He married (1) Meleah. She was born Abt. 1779. He married (2) Onamaiya. She was born Abt. 1790 in Miss.. He married (3) Susannah Graham. She was born Abt. 1799. He married (4) Captain Penny Jackson Nitakechi, daughter of Chief Nitakechi and Machou. She was born 1795.

Children of Moshulatubbee King and Meleah are:

1. Rebecca King, born 1794 in South Carolina; died Abt. 1838. 2. Kiamichi King, born 1796 in Choctaw Nation, Miss.. 3. Peter Wakiya King, born 1810 in Choctaw Nation, Miss.; died 1885 in Winston co., Miss.. 4. Susan King, born Abt. 1811. 5. Charles King, born 1814 in Choctaw Nation Miss.; died December 17, 1855 in Ind. Terr. OK.. 6. Barett King, born 1816. 7. McKee King, born 1818 in Mississippi; died 1878 in Haskell co., Whitefield, OK. and buried in King Cem..

Rebecca King was born 1794 in South Carolina, and died Abt. 1838. She married Samuel “Jake” Williams. He was born Abt. 1789.

Children of Rebecca King and Samuel Williams are:

1. Susan Williams, born 1816. 2. Mary Williams, born 1820 in Alabama. 3. Samuel C. Williams, born August 09, 1824 in Copiah co., MS.; died February 15, 1893 in Williams Mountain, OK.. 4. Catherine Williams, born September 01, 1828. She married Samuel Raswell Campster 1850; born Abt. 1840. 5. Isabella Williams, born Abt. 1830 in Miss.. 6. George W. Williams, born 1833. 7. Lucinda Williams, born March 08, 1836.

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~clovispoint/King1.htm

ID: I4870
Name: Lucinda Sylvesta WILLIAMS
Given Name: Lucinda Sylvesta
Surname: WILLIAMS
Sex: F
Birth: 8 Mar 1836 in Perry County, AL
Death: 1 Mar 1920
Burial: Greenmount Cemetery, Tyro, Lincoln County, Arkansas
Change Date: 13 Aug 2003 at 11:11
OBJE:
FORM: jpg
FILE: e:\Keahey Files\Lucinda Sylvesta Williams.jpg
Title: Lucinda Sysvesta Williams
_SCBK: Y
_PRIM: Y
_TYPE: PHOTO

Father: Jacob Peter WILLIAMS b: 1783 in Jamestown, James City, VA
Mother: Rebecca TUBB b: 23 Jul 1793 in Pend Dist., SC

Marriage 1 Francis Marion MCGRAW b: 28 Apr 1831 in Warren, Mississippi

Married: 2 Aug 1851 in Drew County, Ark Change Date: 17 Jun 2003

Children

Has No Children Minerva MCGRAW b: 1854 Has Children Samuel Washington MCGRAW b: 1856 in Sevier, Arkansas Has Children Isadora MCGRAW b: 4 Apr 1858 Has No Children Mary (Mollie) Rebecca MCGRAW b: 1860 Has Children Benjamin Franklin MCGRAW b: 4 Jan 1866 Has No Children Catherine (Cattie) Elizabeth MCGRAW b: 4 Mar 1872 Has Children Lula Victoria MCGRAW b: 15 Jul 1876

ID: I2119
Name: Isadora MCGRAW
Given Name: Isadora
Surname: McGRAW
Sex: F
Birth: 4 Apr 1858
Death: 30 Nov 1939
Burial: Holly Springs Cem., Lincoln County, Ar.

Father: Francis Marion MCGRAW b: 28 Apr 1831 in Warren, Mississippi
Mother: Lucinda Sylvesta WILLIAMS b: 8 Mar 1836 in Perry County, AL

Marriage 1 William A. Byram KEAHEY b: 21 Feb 1846 in Louisiana

Married: 28 Jan 1875 Change Date: 17 Jun 2003

Children

Has No Children William KEAHEY b: 14 Nov 1874 Has Children Pleasant Francis KEAHEY b: 15 Feb 1876 in Lincoln County, AR Has Children William Orison Sr. KEAHEY b: 16 Sep 1878 Has Children Nora Estelle KEAHEY b: 23 Apr 1881 Has Children Mary Elizabeth (Mollie) KEAHEY b: 12 May 1884 Has Children Benjamin Franklin KEAHEY b: 20 Jul 1887 Has No Children Walter Hove KEAHEY b: 5 Jul 1890 Has Children Lena Belle KEAHEY b: 8 Mar 1892 Has Children Loucinda (Louie) Sylvesta KEAHEY b: 21 Dec 1896

Name: Benjamin Franklin KEAHEY
Given Name: Benjamin Franklin
Surname: KEAHEY
Sex: M
Birth: 20 Jul 1887
Death: 4 Nov 1976 in Beekman, Louisiana
Change Date: 23 Aug 2003 at 13:49
OBJE:
FORM: jpg
FILE: e:\Keahey Files\Benjamin Franklin Keahey.jpg
Title: Benjamin Franklin Keahey
_SCBK: Y
_PRIM: Y
_TYPE: PHOTO
OBJE:
FORM: jpg
FILE: e:\Keahey Files\Pleasant Francis,BenjaminF,&WilliamOSr.jpg
Title: Benjamin Franklin Keahey
_SCBK: Y
_TYPE: PHOTO

HintsAncestry Hints for Benjamin Franklin KEAHEY

5 possible matches found on Ancestry.com Ancestry.com

Father: William A. Byram KEAHEY b: 21 Feb 1846 in Louisiana
Mother: Isadora MCGRAW b: 4 Apr 1858

Marriage 1 Georgie Ella LEONARD b: 23 Sep 1887

Married: 25 Mar 1910 in Lincoln County, Arkansas Change Date: 4 Aug 2003

Children

Has Children Travis Carl KEAHEY b: 13 Feb 1912 in Garnett, Lincoln County, AR Has Children Avis Octavia KEAHEY b: 9 Oct 1913 in Garnett, Lincoln County, AR Has Children Harold Vinson KEAHEY b: 10 Sep 1915 in Garnett, Lincoln County, AR Has Children Hazel Elaine KEAHEY b: 24 Aug 1918 Has Children Georgia Eugenia KEAHEY b: 25 Jan 1925 Has No Children Vera Lou KEAHEY b: 19 Mar 1927

when you talk about genealogy, it is very helpful to include locations and dates.

1900 United States Federal Census about Ben Kehey
Name: Ben Kehey
Age: 12
Birth Date: Jul 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1900: Smith, Lincoln, Arkansas
[Lincoln]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Wm Kehey
Father’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s Name: Dora Kehey
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm Kehey 54
Dora Kehey 42
Pleasant Kehey 24
Mollie Kehey 16
Ben Kehey 12
Lena Kehey 9
Louie Kehey 3
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Smith, Lincoln, Arkansas; Roll: 65; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 120; FHL microfilm: 1240065.
you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.

Arkansas, County Marriages Index, 1837-1957 about B F Keahey
Name: B F Keahey
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1887
Residence: Garnett, Lincoln, Arkansas
Spouse’s Name: Georgia Lenard
Spouse’s Age: 20
Spouse’s Residence: Garnett, Lincoln, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 27 Mar 1910
Marriage License Date: 26 Mar 1910
Marriage County: Lincoln
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 980009

Name: Benjaman F Keahey
[Benjamin F Keahey]
Age in 1910: 23
Birth Year: 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Smith, Lincoln, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Georgie Keahey
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Name: Dorah Keahey
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjaman F Keahey 23
Georgie Keahey 23
Dorah Keahey 50
Lena Keahey 18
Louis Keahey 14
Virdie Hill 15
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Smith, Lincoln, Arkansas; Roll: T624_55; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 0133; Image: 1626; FHL microfilm: 1374068.

Name: Ben F Keahey
Age: 33
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Lone Pine, Lincoln, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Georgie Keahey
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Home Owned: Own
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ben F Keahey 33
Georgie Keahey 33
Travis Keahey 8
Octavia Keahey 6
Hanes Keahey 4
[4 5/12]
Hazle Keahey 1
[1 5/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Lone Pine, Lincoln, Arkansas; Roll: T625_70; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 153; Image: 268.

Name: Benjaman F Keahery
Gender: Male
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Home in 1930: Walnut Lake, Desha, Arkansas
View Map
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Georgia E Keahery
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjaman F Keahery 43
Georgia E Keahery 43
Travis C Keahery 18
Octavia Keahery 16
Harrell Keahery 14
Hazel Keahey 11
Eugenia Keahey 5
[5 1/12]
Vera L Keahey 3
[3 5/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Walnut Lake, Desha, Arkansas; Roll: 73; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 24; Image: 451.0; FHL microfilm: 2339808.

Social Security Death Index about Benjamin Keahey
Name: Benjamin Keahey
SSN: 430-70-4263
Last Residence: 71220 Bastrop, Morehouse, Louisiana, United States of America
Born: 20 Jul 1887
Died: Nov 1976
State (Year) SSN issued: Arkansas (1955)

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Benjamin Franklin Keahey
Name: Benjamin Franklin Keahey
County: Lincoln
State: Arkansas
Birthplace: Arkansas;United States of America
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1886
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1379091
DraftBoard: 0

these records are on ancestry.com.
if you do not have a subscription, your local public library probably does.

as far as native records, did any of your family apply for enrollment in the choctaw tribe in oklahoma?

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
if so, you might want to get a copy of the dawes packet. NARA http://www.archives.gov fort worth, TX office and the oklahoma historical society may have the dawes packet: census card, enrollment application, testimony. accessgenealogy might show that fold3.com has a packet and if so, one month’s subscriiption would be cheapest.

accessgenealogy has links to native census and databases on the left. this is useful if your family lived on a reservation.

choctaw only became a written language in the mid 1850’s, so the tribe doesn’t have records. the war department kept records 1800-1900 or so and those records are at NARA http://www.archives.gov.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet, however check with accessgenealogy’s database to see if your relative’s dawes packet is exists or is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/dawes.php?s_last=green&s_first=mart&s_middle=&s_tribe=
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Bernadette Bernadette

posted on February 18

I am the great-granddaughter of William Carroll Tabor, whose grandmother was Rebecca Williams nee King/Moshulatubbee. William Carroll Tabor’s application for membership in the Choctaw Tribe (Choc. r428) is a virtual genealogy. This 20-page transcript is available on microfilm at the Oklahoma Historical Society. Also available is a handwritten autobiography that William Tabor wrote for the state archives when he was elected to the first Oklahoma Legislature in 1907. Copies can be obtained by mail.

The Dawes depositions of William Carroll Tabor and some of his relatives conflict with some of the genealogies floating around on the Web. Several conflicts are that Rebecca’s birth name was “Tubb” and that she died in 1858. William Carroll Tabor (1850-1917) testified Rebecca raised him after his mother died when he was an infant. In his autobiography, he said Rebecca died when he was 17. That would put her date of death at about 1867. The deposition of a granddaughter who cared for Rebecca before her death placed Rebecca’s death around same time.

In some genealogies, Rebecca married Jacob Peter Williams, not Samuel Jake Williams. Rebecca had a son named “Samuel” and it stands to reason he would have been named after his father. I hope to find more documentation on Samuel Jake Williams. Some people have theorized that Rebecca’s alleged birth name of “Tubb” was short for Moshulatubbee. There is a “Tubb” in the Tabor genealogy but she was Susannah Tubb, who married William Carroll Tabor’s great-grandfather.

Any input would be welcomed.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 19

there would be problems with records. i was copying from other people’s family trees on ancestry.com or the internet.

i find that people usually don’t collect documents if they can copy from other people’s trees. this can lead others astray and make it much more difficult to collect documents.

looking at the time period, i can understand why it might be more difficult to find records.

the war department collected native documents 1800-1900 or so and those are retained at NARA. these records were mostly generated from natives accepting rations on reservations. there is an additional problem in that some native names were transliterated, which is like generating a name phonetically. native languages were oral traditions, so the tribes don’t have records themselves.

you might have a chance at acquiring some records, especially if jacob peter williams was a caucasian, a landowner, or was considered a notable person.

state archives
state historical society
local history books or historical newspapers- might be accessible through interlibrary loan/your public library
county courthouse:
criminal or civil records
land records
vital records
estate/probate
guardianship, if minors were involved

cemetery records: rootsweb (county, surname, tribe, or cemetery) websites, interment.net or findagrave.com – contact the cemetery to see if there is more information

there are a few family trees on ancestry.com.

Jacob Peter Williams
Birth 1783 in Jamestown, James, Virginia, United States
Death 1849 in Drew County, Arkansas, USA

however, i don’t see much documentation attached.

females were not enumerated on census records before 1850. the male was head of household and the other family members were just numbers and ages.

tubb may be associated with the tubbee names. this link might help explain:
http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/CHOCTAW/2000-05/0959278930
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/chronicles/v008/v008p315.html

i am not choctaw and there might be others who know the language, more about the clans.

http://www.nativestudy.com/choctaw-tribal-clans.html
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/clan.html
jennifer is well-informed and helpful.

jennifer may have a page on this family. you should look at her website organization.
try this:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/mushulatubbe.html

i do not see rebecca king listed on that page.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/james-c-johnson-and-james-j-bennight-choctaw.htm

http://userdb.rootsweb.ancestry.com/nativeamerican/
get family group/card#, members of the family:

more info gives you the family group on the card#
partial surnames ok. just enter the surname.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/final-rolls.htm
partial names might not be found on this website.

find a possible name, click on the # in the card# column and this will show you the family group as of application. use the 1900 and 1910 census to match the names. write down the names, card#.

if you don’t find your family, then look at the 1900-1940 census locations for your family, look for nearby tribes. contact the nearby tribes to see if your family had enrolled. find out membership criteria for that tribe. there are tribes in other locations and other choctaw tribes. location is an important factor over whether a native enrolled in a tribe. you won’t find that an original enrollee enrolled in the choctaw tribe in oklahoma if they were living in another state, for instance. if your family was renting in 1910, for instance, they had not received a land grant from one of the five major tribes in oklahoma and were probably not enrolled. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes are on the dawes roll.

many natives did not want to live under tribal authority or didn’t qualify for enrollment or could not submit satisfactory evidence to a tribe. this is very common. it means that your family is not enrolled in a tribe.

there were a few natives that were enrolled by tribal council approval or lawsuit. i don’t have any way to tell you whether someone was enrolled because of this. you would have to contact the tribe for this information. however, some people have posted this answer and you might be able to use google on your family names and see this.

supposing you find your family in the dawes roll, then look at the oklahoma historical society dawes website and put in the name of someone in that family group that you found on accessgenealogy. this will give you the enrollment # if the enrollment was successful. write down the enrollment #s for your family.

if you found your family on the dawes roll, you might want a copy of the dawes packet. four sources for this:
you can try to find information about the family in the dawes packet.

1) once you have the card#, search here for documents. the website is free at this time:
http://www.ancestrypaths.com/five-civilized-tribes/
arranged by card#.
use the slider bar at the bottom to approximate your card#. the packets are arranged in order of card#. usually the beginning document references the card#.

there may be more than one card# for a particular person, depending on whether they were a parent at the time of enrollment.

sometimes a family’s consideration also depends on an earlier decision in their family. so you may have more than one card# to look up.

2) fold3.com is an online subscription resource and one month’s subscription is less than the price of a dawes packet at NARA or oklahoma historical society.
3) NARA http://www.archives.gov fort worth, TX office
4) oklahoma historical society http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

a dawes packet contains census card, enrollment application, supporting documents and maybe testimony. even if your family was not enrolled, the genealogical information might be of interest to you.