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Jenny Jenny

posted on August 14, 2010 and updated on August 16, 2010

Hey All,

I could use some help in my search:

I have been told that my grandmother (Nellie I. Moore) is Choctaw, born in Hugo, Ok. in 1905. Her father or grandfather was (John C. Moore) or (Jacob Moore) no one knows which in dad and which is grandpa. Her mothers maiden name is believed to be (Moss) but again, this could be her grandmothers name.
If anyone has any information about this please contact me at bootjackjenny@charter.net

My grandmothers married name was “Webb” and I already read the 1910 census…they transposed her middle initial into an “L”. If you zoom the page and name in, you can clearly see that an capitol “I” was written, but a capitol “L” was transposed. So that is the correct information. My great grandfather was widowed at a very young age, shortly after my grandmother was born, so she did have a step mom.
What does this mean “Roll T625_1466; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 202; Image: 86.” is this just where the information is found on the Census or is it a Roll Number for a tribe?

Thanks a million

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 14, 2010

nellie moore b. 1905 OK
no spouse name, no childrens’ names, no exact birthdate, no date or place of death. genealogists use this information to match records. this is a common name.

no doubt her social security application or her birth certificate would have her parents’ names. anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 has a social security application on file and people had to file a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate as proof of age. her obituary or her death certificate might have that information.

there are some possibilities:
Nellie Moore James F,
Maggie Quapaw, Ottawa, Oklahoma abt 1902 Oklahoma Daughter
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Nellie Moore Brinton, Pottawatomie, Oklahoma abt 1902 Oklahoma Granddaughter
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Nellie D Moore John E,
Cora Dill, Kiowa, Oklahoma abt 1903 Texas Son
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Nellie Moore Rose Boley, Okfuskee, Oklahoma abt 1903 Louisiana Daughter
View Record
Nellie L Moore George W,
Sarah B Blue Grass, Beaver, Oklahoma abt 1903 Kansas Daughter
View Record
Nellie Moore Charles C,
Winnie A Dill, Kiowa, Oklahoma abt 1905 Oklahoma Daughter
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Name: Nellie L Moore
Age in 1910: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: John C
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Wright, Jefferson, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Household Members:
Name Age
John C Moore 34
Maggie E Moore 8
Nellie L Moore 5
John C Moore 2
Jessie G Moore 19
Nancy J Moore 55

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Nellie L Moore John C Wright, Jefferson, Oklahoma abt 1905 Oklahoma Daughter
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Nellie M Moore Grant M,
Elmancis Webster, Woodward, Oklahoma abt 1905 Oklahoma Daughter
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Nellie C Moore Lonzo,
Viola Township 6, Delaware, Oklahoma abt 1909 Oklahoma Daughter
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Nellie L Moore Harry,
Maltie Fitzhugh, Pontotoc, Oklahoma abt 1909 Oklahoma Daughter

is this her family?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Nellie Moore
Name: Nellie Moore
Home in 1920: Brown, Jefferson, Oklahoma
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: John C
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Name: Linnie
Mother’s Birth Place: Arkansas
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John C Moore 45
Linnie Moore 24
Nellie Moore 14
Oades Moore 6
Lawernce Moore 3
Raymond Moore 1
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Brown, Jefferson, Oklahoma; Roll T625_1466; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 202; Image: 86.

linnie is probably nellie’s stepmother, but maybe odis, lawrence and raymond’s mother.
you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your familly.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Nellie L Moore
Name: Nellie L Moore
Age in 1910: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: John C
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Kentucky
Home in 1910: Wright, Jefferson, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John C Moore 34
Maggie E Moore 8
Nellie L Moore 5
John C Moore 2
Jessie G Moore 19
Nancy J Moore 55
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Wright, Jefferson, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1254; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 161; Image: 946.

nancy is john’s mother, jessie is john’s brother. and the children were all born in oklahoma, there mother was b. KY.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about John C Moore
Name: John C Moore
County: Jefferson
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 3 Jan 1874
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1851783
DraftBoard: 0

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather thann less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Jenny Jenny

posted on August 16, 2010

My grandmothers married name was “Webb” and I already read the 1910 census…they transposed her middle initial into an “L”. If you zoom the page and name in, you can clearly see that a capitol “I” was written, but a capitol “L” was transposed. So that is the correct information. My great grandfather was widowed at a very young age, shortly after my grandmother was born, so she did have a step mom.
What does this mean “Roll T625_1466; Page: 6A; Enumeration District: 202; Image: 86.” is this just where the information is found on the Census or is it a Roll Number for a tribe?

Thanks a million

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 16, 2010

T625 is the census series #, roll 1466 of that series is the particular reel where this record is found.
it is a census number on the federal census.
enumeration district, page # is the particular page of that reel.

if you have a correction to the census, then you should enter the correction so that others can find your family.

nellie is probably not on the dawes roll since the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906. but there are many john moore records. however, i don’t think he applied.
you can look and see if you can find him.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
if you find him, click on the # in the card column to see the family group.
if you find the family: you can request a copy of the enrollment application from:
the tribe
NARA http://www.nara.gov fort worth office
http://www.footnote.com
oklahoma historical society http://www.okhistory.org/

the names on the dawes roll are people who applied for enrollment. some of the people who applied were rejected.
see the codes/guide used on the dawes webpage.

since her father was b. TN and her mother was b. KY, the family probably didn’t go on the trail of tears, late 1830’s. so they might have made an unofficial migration and they might have been living off-reservation.

you can ask the tribe for a copy of the enrollment application