Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

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Re: Jesse Morgan, d. 2001

Seni'h'le Seni'h'le

posted on January 4, 2012

Hello. I am at wit’s end regarding my research. I have been attempting for a time to track down the Census/Roll information regarding my Maternal GGF, Jesse Morgan, who died alone in the McAlester area in 2001 (without anyone notifying NOK for about six months thereafter, no less). Here is what I have been told, via Mother or one of my brothers in the last few years:

1.He would make a habit of cashing one of his checks (either his WWI pension or his Tribal stipend) in hard coin, burying the proceeds in his yard in coffee cans.

2. He lived alone for much of his life, if not the majority of it. His last known relationship was with GGM Letha Martin, with whom he had one daughter. The two spoke again after many years in 1969, at my parents’ wedding reception.

3. His most notable encounter with the Housing Authority occurred later in his life and concerned his mode of lifestyle. Specifically, he continued to heat and cook with a wood stove in the house his mother acquired ca. 1913. After a brief stay in a more updated dwelling per the persuasion of the Choctaw Housing Authority, he was allowed to return to his original setup after attempting to light a wood fire in the new dwelling’s electric oven.

Any information would be better than what I presently know, as I have found numerous other links throughout my tree, almost entirely of “IW” (Intermarried White) Census numbers or “1/8.”

Thank you in advance.


suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 4, 2012

the dawes roll is a list of applications 1896-1906 to the five major tribes in oklahoma. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma.

i would suggest that you start with what you know, gather documents, then go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificate and marriage license and then you have more information on your grandparents. if you get stuck on someone who passed away after 1/1/1937, you can access their social security application.
you would need an SS-5.

when you request birth certificates before 1940, ask also for a delayed birth certificate. when social security came into effect, people had to show a birth record to prove age.

state vital records would have birth, death and marriage records. if the record is older, you can ask the state archives or state historical society.

i use census records to see the family group, fix the family to a location and date.

after you find records down to the 1900 census, you should look at the dawes roll. geographic location is an important factor in tribal affiliation.

maybe this is your relative:
Social Security Death Index about Jesse Morgan
Name: Jesse Morgan
SSN: 448-03-9764
Last Residence: 74502 Mcalester, Pittsburg, Oklahoma, United States of America
Born: 30 Jun 1899
Died: 24 Apr 2001
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951)

1900 United States Federal Census about Jesse Morgan
Name: Jesse Morgan
Age: 2
Birth Date: Jun 1897
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1900: Amite, Tangipahoa, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Charles Morgan
Father’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s name: Ida M Morgan
Mother’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Morgan 36
Ida M Morgan 27
Daisy D Morgan 12
Alfred C Morgan 9
Pescot L Morgan 5
Duncan S Morgan 4
Jesse Morgan 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Amite, Tangipahoa, Louisiana; Roll: T623_583; Page: 14A; Enumeration District: 90.

if this is your relative, he was not living in oklahoma in 1900. so you might look at the louisiana tribes, like jena choctaw.

Name: Jesse Morgan
Age in 1910: 11
Birth Year: 1899
Birthplace: Louisiana
Home in 1910: McAlester Ward 2, Pittsburg, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Stepson
[Step Son]
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s name: Ida Herron
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Herron 53
Ida Herron 38
Cooper Morgan 17
Percey Morgan 15
Duncan Morgan 13
Jesse Morgan 11
Verth Penny Camp 6
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: McAlester Ward 2, Pittsburg, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1270; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 0235; Image: 310; FHL Number: 1375283.

Name: Jesse Morgan
County: Pittsburg
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 30 Jun 1899
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1852070
DraftBoard: 1
he’s an iceman and ida herron is his nearest living relative.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
other resources are NARA
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
some oklahoma genealogical societies:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page

and this might be of interest to you:
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto