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patricia monday patricia monday

posted on December 24, 2011

i left a message couple weeks ago on the phone. wanted to touch base. my grandfather was nathaniel hershel monday, grandma violet gertrude caudell. both are deceased. i would like to know more about my heritage and possibly apply for a tribal card. my grandpa was born there i believe. november 6, 06. grandma off reservation, mountains ark, april 14,14. everything i get here to help my children out, first item on page is am i a tribal member, tribe and number. i dont have this information. my mother is adopted, so finding out my heritage and sharing it with my children and grandchild is important to me. my mothers non identifying information only states english and indian. im sure it is not choctaw tho as she is from michigan. i have not applied to any other tribe. i dont intend too. my fathers family is who i know. please any help you can give would be greatly appreciated.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on December 25, 2011

i don’t think the tribe reads the messageboard.

nathaniel hershel monday b. 06 Nov 1906 m. violet gertrude caudell b. 14 Apr 1914.

you need one more generation down in each of the families in order to check if the family made application to one of the five major tribes 1896-1906 on the dawes roll. but there are 63 tribes in oklahoma. location has a great deal to do with tribal affiliation.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Miladen Seviel Monday
Name: Miladen Seviel Monday
County: Atoka
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1879
FHL Roll Number: 1851605
DraftBoard: 0

Name: Nathaniel H Monday
Age in 1910: 3
Birth Year: 1907
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: Boone, Logan, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Mileden S Monday
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s name: Ida D Monday
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mileden S Monday 31
Ida D Monday 31
James H Monday 8
Naalorm M Monday 7
Nathaniel H Monday 3
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Boone, Logan, Arkansas; Roll: T624_56; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 0043; Image: 69; FHL Number: 1374069.

there are some mondays on the dawes roll, but not choctaw mondays. no mil* on the dawes roll.

Arkansas, County Marriages Index, 1837-1957 about N H Monday
Name: N H Monday
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1907
Residence: Casa, Conway, Arkansas
Spouse’s Name: V G Caudell
Spouse’s Age: 19
Spouse’s Residence: Morrilton, Conway, Arkansas
Marriage Date: 17 Jun 1933
Marriage License Date: 1 Mar 1933
Marriage County: Conway
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 2048100

no caudell surnames on the dawes roll.

probably miladen? sevier monday.

Name: Herschal Monday
Age: 12
Birth Year: abt 1908
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1920: Lewis, Atoka, Oklahoma
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s name: Ida D Monday
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Ida D Monday 41
Norborn Monday 16
Herschal Monday 12
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Lewis, Atoka, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1452; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 9; Image: 656.
ida is a widow, b. MS, is a farmer who rents the farm.

Name: Nathaniel Monday
Birth Year: abt 1907
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1930: Cedar Falls, Conway, Arkansas
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Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Georgia A Black 48
Francies Boland 26
Usell Morris 14
Dorthy Qualls 2 8/12
Nathaniel Monday 23
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cedar Falls, Conway, Arkansas; Roll: 69; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 4; Image: 630.0.

Name: Mildon S Monday
[Meldon S Monday]
Age: 20
Birth Date: Jan 1879
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1900: Cedar Falls, Conway, Arkansas
[Petit Jean, Conway, Arkansas]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Ida D Monday
Marriage Year: 1899
Years Married: 1
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mildon S Monday 20
Ida D Monday 21
David Thorp 26
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Cedar Falls, Conway, Arkansas; Roll: T623_55; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 3.

Name: Gertude Caudell
Birth Year: abt 1915
Home in 1930: Cedar Falls, Conway, Arkansas
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Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: A C Caudell
Mother’s name: Elizabeth Caudell
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
A C Caudell 45
Elizabeth Caudell 39
Eldridge Caudell 22
Maria Caudell 17
Gertude Caudell 15
Nona Caudell 14
Pauline Caudell 11
Elvert Caudell 9
Josephine Caudell 7
Nagoma Caudell 5
Edith V Caudell 3 5/12
Louise Caudell 10/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Cedar Falls, Conway, Arkansas; Roll: 69; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 4; Image: 628.0.
violet was b. AR, parents b. AR.

see your local public library to get a copy of this obituary:
Name of Deceased: Violet Monday
Gender: F (Female)
Age at Death: 94
Death Date: 22 Feb 2009
Death Place: Kennett
Obituary Date: 24 Feb 2009
Newspaper Title: Daily Dunklin Democrat
Newspaper Location: Kennett, MO, USA
Birth Date: 14 Apr 1914
Residence (at time of death): Hornersville, MO
Spouse’s Name: Nathaniel Herschal Monday
Parents’ Names: Alvin Claudie and Nancy Elizabeth Evans Caudell,
Childrens’ Names: James Monday, of Oppelo, Ark., Don Monday, of Kennett and Richard Monday, of Villa-Ridge, MO; Marjorie Coupal, of Hornersville and Freda Clements, of Morrison, MO
Siblings’ Names: Edith Leach, of Salt Lake City, Utah and Martha Louise Wade, of Russellville, Ark
Marriage Date: 1 Mar 1933
Number of Grandchildren: 18
Number of Great-grandchildren: 43

Violet Monday
Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Violet Gertrude Monday, 94, of Hornersville, Mo., died Sunday, Feb. 22, 2009, at Twin Rivers Regional Medical Center in Kennett.

Born April 14, 1914, in Conway, Ark., daughter of the late Alvin Claudie and Nancy Elizabeth Evans Caudell, she was a homemaker and a member of the Baptist Church in Hornersville.

On March 1, 1933, in Conway, she married Nathaniel Herschal Monday, who preceded her in death on Jan. 27, 1987. She was also preceded in death by three brothers and nine sisters.

Survivors include three sons, James Monday, of Oppelo, Ark., Don Monday, of Kennett and Richard Monday, of Villa-Ridge, Mo.; two daughters, Marjorie Coupal, of Hornersville and Freda Clements, of Morrison, Mo.; two sisters, Edith Leach, of Salt Lake City, Utah and Martha Louise Wade, of Russellville, Ark.; 18 grandchildren; 43 great-grandchildren and nine great-great-grandchildren.

Visitation will be from 6 p.m. to 8 p.m., today, Tuesday, Feb. 24, at the Bradshaw-Emerson Funeral Home in Hornersville.

Funeral services will be held at 10:30 a.m., Wednesday, Feb. 25, at the First Baptist Church in Hornersville with Revs. Paul Moore and Dale Rickman officiating.

Burial will follow in the Horner Cemetery at Hornersville.

Pallbearers are Troy, Javis, Leroy, Joe, Floyd and Al Douglas.

Honorary pallbearers are Paul Cottes, Jr., and Pat Clements.

Name: Gertrude Monday
Last Residence: 63855 Hornersville, Dunklin, Missouri
Born: 14 Apr 1914
Died: 22 Feb 2009
State (Year) SSN issued: Missouri (1960-1961)

i don’t know if this is your family. you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.

Name: A W Cowdill
[A W Cowdell]
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1920: Bowen, Mississippi, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Ada Cowdill
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Home Owned: Rent
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
A W Cowdill 36
Ada Cowdill 29
Gertrude Cowdill 10
Virgie Cowdill 6
Walter Cowdill 2
Woodrow Cowdill 1
Parish Johmy Cowgill 0
5
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Bowen, Mississippi, Arkansas; Roll: T625_72; Page: 19A; Enumeration District: 141; Image: 702.

1910 United States Federal Census about Alvin H Caudle
Name: Alvin H Caudle
[Alvin H Candle]
Age in 1910: 10/12
0
Birth Year: abt 1910
1910
Birthplace: Arkansas
Home in 1910: De Roan, Hempstead, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Albert L Caudle
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s name: Minilie Caudle
Mother’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Albert L Caudle 26
Minilie Caudle 24
Malcolm P Caudle 2
Alvin H Caudle 10/12
0
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: De Roan, Hempstead, Arkansas; Roll: T624_52; Page: 17B; Enumeration District: 0075; Image: 155; FHL Number: 1374065.

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942 about Alvin Claud Caudell
Name: Alvin Claud Caudell
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1885
Birth Place: Yell, Arkansas
Residence: Conway, Arkansas
Race: White

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Alvin Clawd Cawdell
Name: Alvin Clawd Cawdell
County: Conway
State: Arkansas
Birth Date: 19 Jul 1884
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1522836
DraftBoard: 0

Social Security Death Index about Alvin Caudell
Name: Alvin Caudell
SSN: 432-20-1424
Last Residence: 71261 Mer Rouge, Morehouse, Louisiana, United States of America
Born: 19 Jul 1884
Died: Sep 1968
State (Year) SSN issued: Arkansas (Before 1951)

your family was not living in OK during the time of the dawes roll, by 1900. further, the census records indicate that they rented a farm, rather than owned a farm. if they had been one of the original members of the tribe, they would have received an allotment of land.

you should check with the arkansas historical society and the arkansas archives about possible tribal membership. they may have also been mississippi choctaw. see the links in this post about this tribe. in order to show that they are native, you might find a land scrip record 1830-1880 in NS or AL. this land record will say that it is choctaw (or other tribe) scrip. scrip was given in lieu of tribal enrollment.

all tribes would require that you are directly related to an original member of the tribe.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.

you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto