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finding my childrens heritage

jessica webb jessica webb

posted on November 2, 2011

my children are hollie ann webb, kinley rae webb, cody mihcael allen webb father, colburn marvin allen webb DOB 2-14-1978, grandmother sylvia ann webb DOB 6-7-1952, great grandmother eunice alzina hale johnson DOB 5-13-1929 eunice’s mother :martha celestia bigelow hale DOB9-12-1898, eunices father michael delbert hale DOB 1-16-1897michael delbert hales father michael b. hale DOB 9-22-1918 mother alzina mcdaniel.


suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 3, 2011 and updated on November 3, 2011

it appears that some of these people are living. we don’t put information about living people on the internet, for reasons of privacy.

the information is quite jammed together and brief. genealogists use names, spouse, date, location, children to match records.

eunice alzina hale m. ? johnson (guessing hale is the maiden name) b. 5/13/1929
michael delbert hale b. 1/16/1897 m. martha celestia bigelow b. 9/12/1898
neither person is on the dawes roll taken 1896-1906.

1900 United States Federal Census about Michael D Hale
Name: Michael D Hale
[Michael P Hale]
Home in 1900: Greer, Apache, Arizona Territory
[Alpine, Apache, Arizona]
Age: 2
Birth Date: Jan 1898
Birthplace: Arizona
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Name: Michael Hale
Father’s Birthplace: Ohio
Mother’s Name: Alzina Hale
Mother’s Birthplace: Utah
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Hale 30
Alzina Hale 24
Hilda E Hale 5
James M Hale 4
Michael D Hale 2
Admiral F Hale 5/12
Isaac Hale 36
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Greer, Apache, Arizona Territory; Roll: T623_45; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 3.

1910 United States Federal Census about Michael D Hale
Name: Michael D Hale
Age in 1910: 12
Estimated Birth Year: 1898
Birthplace: Arizona
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: Michael Hale
Father’s Birth Place: Ohio
Mother’s Name: Alzina Hale
Mother’s Birth Place: Utah
Home in 1910: Apache National Forest, Apache, Arizona
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Hale 40
Alzina Hale 33
Hilda E Hale 15
James L Hale 13
Michael D Hale 12
Admerell S Hale 10
Laurance W Hale 8
Orren E Hale 6
Melvin L Hale 4
Lona L Hale 2
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Apache National Forest, Apache, Arizona; Roll: T624_38; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0004; Image: 414; FHL Number: 1374051.
the father rents a farm.

Name: Michael D Hale
[Michal P Hale]
Home in 1920: Greer, Apache, Arizona
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Birthplace: Arizona
Relation to Head of House: Nephew
Father’s Birth Place: Utah
Mother’s Birth Place: Utah
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Howard Hale 55
Mary E Hale 38
Laura Hale 18
Charles Hale 16
Joy Hale 13
Harless Hale 8
Nelda Hale 4
[4 8/12]
Michael D Hale 22
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Greer, Apache, Arizona; Roll: T625_46; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 1; Image: 18.

Name: Michael D Hales
Home in 1930: Price, Carbon, Utah
View Map
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Birthplace: Arizona
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Martha Hales
Race: White


Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Michael D Hales 33
Martha Hales 28
Melvinia B Hales 10
Thora Hales 6
Glena L Hales 4
Eunice A Hales 11/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Price, Carbon, Utah; Roll: 2415; Page: 2B; Enumeration District: 26; Image: 305.0.
glena was b. AZ and eunice was b. UT.
michael rents a farm.

i think you should probably look at a different tribe to see if someone is an original enrollee.
try tribes in AZ and UT. location is a primary factor when looking for a native affiliation.
however, when people are allotted when they are enrolled, they usually receive land. the fact that this family was renting farmland usually means that they were not enrolled in a tribe.

in order to enroll in a tribe, you must be directly descended from an original enrollee.

try this:
you will have to check with each tribe.

get a map and mark where they were living 1880-1930. then try to contact nearby tribes.
some telephone #’s that might help you:

there are several family trees with this family on you might try writing to them. your local public library probably has a subscription to ancestry. similar family trees might be on

Michael Delbert Hale
Birth 16 Jan 1897 in Greer,Apache,Arizona
Death 1 Mar 1971 in Springerville,Apache,Arizona

Martha Celestia Bigelow
Birth 12 Sep 1898 in Eagar,Apache,Arizona
Death 4 Aug 1967 in Mesa,Maricopa,Arizona
parents: Orson Moroni Bigelow
1870 – 1952

Elmira Lucinda Marble 1875 – 1945

Name: Martha Bigelow
Home in 1900: Eagar, Apache, Arizona Territory
[Alpine, Apache, Arizona]
Age: 2
Birth Date: 1898
Birthplace: Arizona
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter
Father’s Name: Orson M Bigelow
Father’s Birthplace: Utah
Mother’s Name: Myra M Bigelow
Mother’s Birthplace: Utah
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Orson M Bigelow 29
Myra M Bigelow 25
Nathan E Bigelow 8
Orson L Bigelow 6
Myra E Bigelow 4
Martha Bigelow 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Eagar, Apache, Arizona Territory; Roll: T623_45; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 3.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
other resources are NARA
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
some oklahoma genealogical societies:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto