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My Great Grandparents were Married in Choctaw Nation--am I Choctaw?

Annette Annette

posted on October 26, 2011

My name is Annette my Great-Grand Parents were Married in Choctaw Nation. Here is their information:

CHAPMAN, C W 24 JAMES, MARTHA E 19 4 OCT 1903 BR1 193

Were they Choctaw? Am I Choctaw?

Thanks

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 26, 2011

no children, no location in this post. no dates of birth or death in this post. these are common surnames, so you need more information. only initials for the groom.

when oklahoma was a territory, there were a limited # of places that could authorize a marriage. so, not necessarily. oklahoma was indian territory at the time, but there were several land rushes. do you have a copy of the marriage document?

martha was 19 in 1903 so she would have been born about 1884. and c. w. was 24 in 1903 so he would have been born about 1879. maybe he has a world war 1 draft card, which might show a specific birthdate, name and location.

i don’t see a likely martha james record in the 1900 census. she might have moved only oklahoma after 1900.

here is one possibility:

1900 United States Federal Census about Martha James
Name: Martha James
Home in 1900: Township 5, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 16
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Race: Black
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Sister
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lizzie Walker 26
Gertrude Walker 11
Emma Voyd 6
Louis James 23
Joe James 18
Martha James 16
Wallace Frazier 30
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 5, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: T623_1852; Enumeration District: 116.
this family might be related to the other james family on the census page. the father is listed as born in indian territory, but the mother on most of these people have different birthplaces. so you might be looking for a father who might be native, rather than a mother.

i am not seeing that she applied for enrollment.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Annette Annette

posted on October 27, 2011

Hi Suzanne:

Here is some more information:

Great-Grandparents:

Charles (Charley) William Chapman b. 12/27/1879 Kentucky or Arkansas

Martha Etta James b. 7/10/1884 Tippah Co. Mississippi d. 2/1/31 Silo, Bryan County, Ok—-she is listed in the 1900 Census for Tippah Co., Mississippi with her parents,
Thomas James, Jr. and Lousetta Mainer

Their Children:

Flore (or Flora) b. 5/20/05 d. 1/21/2002
Dora Evaline (or Evelyn) b. 2/17/08 d. 11/24/2000
Dessie b. 4/17/12 d. 12/13/1998 (MY GRANDMOTHER)
Eugene b. 1921
Rupert b. 1924
Adaine b. 6/17/17 d. 7/7/2001
Thomas b. 12/19/01 d. 9/16/88

My father, Martin Chapman b. 11/2/28, is listed on the 1930 census in Choctaw, Oklahoma

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 27, 2011

if martha was living in MS in 1900, why do you think she was a member of an oklahoma tribe? so i’m confused.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906 and contains the names of applicants to the five major tribes of oklahoma.

you might want to look at the tribes near where her parents lived in MS.

1900 United States Federal Census about Martha E James
Name: Martha E James
Home in 1900: Falkner, Tippah, Mississippi
Age: 15
Birth Date: Jul 1884
Birthplace: Mississippi
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Daughter
Father’s Name: Thomas James
Father’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother’s Name: Julia A James
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas James 48
Julia A James 46
John W James 23
George M James 18
Martha E James 15
Burton A James 13
Sarah E James 10
Albert L James 8
John L Mcbride 19
Leah James 77
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Falkner, Tippah, Mississippi; Roll: T623_829; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 106.

Name: Martha Chapman
Age in 1910: 25
Estimated Birth Year: 1885
Birthplace: Mississippi
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Spouse’s Name: Charlie Chapman
Home in 1910: Township 3, Bryan, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charlie Chapman 28
Martha Chapman 25
Flora A Chapman 4
Dora E Chapman 2
Thomas F Chapman 5/12
0
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 3, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1244; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 0019; Image: 35; FHL Number: 1375257.

the 1910 census says charlie was b. AR

heritage and tribal enrollment are two different topics.

membership to the choctaw tribe required that the family went on the trail of tears in the late 1830’s from the southeastern reservations to oklahoma/indian territory, was living in indian territory/oklahoma by 1900 and was under the authority of the tribe.

you should look at tribes near where your family was living in MS.

http://www.nanations.com/mschoctaw/
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/mississippi/index.htm
http://www.choctaw.org/
the mississippi choctaw tribe website is currently down but they should be up on the internet again soon.
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html
http://www.native-languages.org/mississippi.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_Band_of_Choctaw_Indians
treaty of rabbit creek.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Dancing_Rabbit_Creek

you might have to trace your family down to the 1830-1880 time period and see if a head of household accepted a choctaw scrip land grant in lieu of tribal enrollment.

you might want to correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.

Name: Charley Chapman
[Charly Chapman]
Home in 1920: Brown, Bryan, Oklahoma
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Kentucky
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s Name: Morthia Chapman
Father’s Birth Place: Kentucky
Mother’s Birth Place: Kentucky
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charley Chapman 34
Morthia Chapman 32
Flora Chapman 13
Evaline Chapman 12
Thomas Chapman 11
Dessie Chapman 8
Genevia Chapman 4
[4 1/12]
Albert Chapman 2
[2 2/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Brown, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1454; Page: 28B; Enumeration District: 20; Image: 276.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Charles William Chapman
Name: Charles William Chapman
County: Bryan
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 27 Dec 1879
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1851607
DraftBoard: 0

1930 United States Federal Census about Etta Chapman
Name: Etta Chapman
Home in 1930: Oakes, Choctaw, Oklahoma
View Map
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Charley Chapman
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charley Chapman 50
Etta Chapman 45
Thomas Chapman 20
Bessie Chapman 18
Geneva Chapman 15
Adine Chapman 11
Eugene Chapman 9
Rupert Chapman 6
Neal Chapman 1 1/12
Martin Chapman 1 4/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Oakes, Choctaw, Oklahoma; Roll: 1897; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 19; Image: 875.0.

1910 United States Federal Census about Joseph F James
Name: Joseph F James
[Joseph Thomas James]
[Joseph T James]
Age in 1910: 59
Estimated Birth Year: 1851
Birthplace: Mississippi
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Spouse’s Name: Julia James
Home in 1910: Township 3, Bryan, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph F James 59
Julia James 51
57
Burton James 21
Albert James 18
Jhonny James 14
Willie James 13
Lilly James 12
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 3, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1244; Page: 20B; Enumeration District: 0019; Image: 45; FHL Number: 1375257.

Mississippi Marriages, 1776-1935 about Julia Bryant
Name: Julia Bryant
Spouse: Joseph James
Marriage Date: 1871
County: Tippah

1880 United States Federal Census about Joseph T. James
Name: Joseph T. James
Home in 1880: District 17, Hardeman, Tennessee
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Mississippi
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse’s Name: Julia A. James
Father’s birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s birthplace: Tennessee
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph T. James 28
Julia A. James 26
Nancy L. James 8
James W. James 6
John W. James 4
Thomas N. James 1
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: District 17, Hardeman, Tennessee; Roll: 1260; Family History Film: 1255260; Page: 528B; Enumeration District: 61; .

i see that julia was b. AL.

there are MOWA in AL.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOWA_Band_of_Choctaw_Indians