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Searching for David A. Wilson/Mary Mullins/Elizabeth Mullins

Martha Moore Martha Moore

posted on October 23, 2011 and updated on October 24, 2011

Trying to find Native American geneology of Elizabeth Mullins/Wilson. Possibly Choctaw. Elizabeth Wilson born 1824-1827 in KY. Father David A. Wilson, Mother Mary Mullins.
Father born in VA?, Mother born in VA. Married as Mullins but
first son was James Wilson Summers.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 23, 2011

no dates, no spouse, no children, no location in your post. these are common surnames.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Martha Moore Martha Moore

posted on October 24, 2011

Elizabeth"Betsy" Mullins Wilson was daughter of
David A. Wilson and Mary Mullins was born in 1824-27 in KY.
Married as Elizabeth Mullins. First son was named James Wilson Summers. Married in Adair Co. MO.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 24, 2011

no date of death, place of death. no name of spouse.
no birthdate for james wilson summers.

are you trying to establish affiliation with the tribe or enrollment? there is no goal for your research. this is very important. there is no information on what records you already have.

why do you think this family was choctaw. do you have any information why you are putting a post on this messageboard.

the choctaw tribe is really an affiliated band of natives. there are several choctaw tribes, state and federally registered or trying to become registered. have you looked at the locations where your family lived, to see if there were tribes nearby? location is a primary factor to help find an affiliated tribe.

the choctaw tribe of oklahoma has a limited # of records. the war department of the federal government was keeping records 1800-1900, but you will find these are fairly difficult. the choctaw language was an oral tradition and only became a written language in the middle of the 1800’s. some records are transliterated and this becomes a problem in finding typewritten names. names can be spelled variously.

these names are very common, which means you should have more information, rather than less.

maybe this is your relative?
Name: James W Summers
Home in 1900: Township 2, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 57
Birthplace: Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Spouse’s Name: Mary J Summers
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James W Summers 57
Mary J Summers 52
Orville B Summers 30
James R Summers 14
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 2, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: T623_1852; Enumeration District: 112.

this census says that james w. summers was b. apr. 1843. now that would be pretty different than your suggested list of parent, grandparents.

it appears that this family did not apply for enrollment with any of the five major tribes in oklahoma. however there are 63 tribes in oklahoma. see my earlier post about oklahoma tribes. i see they are living in atoka county, OK. my late husband’s family came from that area and i know that there were several mississippi choctaw in that area.

james summers does own a farm. he was married 31 years ago, so that would be about 1869.

orville was b. sep. 1869 MO, son james was b. dec 1885 indian territory. so you might look at the 1885 native census and see if they are on it. http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/census/

if you are looking for enrollment, you would have to prove direct descent to an original enrollee of the tribe. this would be true of most tribes. there are still some tribes trying to become recognized also.

1910 United States Federal Census about James W Simmins
Name: James W Simmins
[James W Summers]
Age in 1910: 67
Estimated Birth Year: 1843
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father’s Birth Place: Kentucky
Mother’s Birth Place: Kentucky
Spouse’s Name: Mary Simmins
Home in 1910: Atoka Ward 3, Atoka, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James W Simmins 67
Mary Simmins 63
James B Simmins 24
Paschel S Watson 50
Effie Watson 43
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Atoka Ward 3, Atoka, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1242; Page: 10B; Enumeration District: 0012; Image: 1187; FHL Number: 1375255.

if they were living on the reservation in 1880, you might find them listed as arkansas territory or indian territory. they might be listed as intruders and not on the native census.

the missouri state archives have many records online and available by writing to them.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/archives/resources/birthdeath/

there are many possible records for james summers.