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robert b. glasgow born 1915

Robert Glasgow Robert Glasgow

posted on October 4, 2011

looking for leads on robert b. glasgow born 1915
lived on choctaw tribe some where in texas

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on October 5, 2011

1930 United States Federal Census about Robert B Glasgow
Name: Robert B Glasgow
Home in 1930: Spur, Dickens, Texas
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Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1916
Relation to Head of House: Son
Parent’s Name: Luria Glasgow
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Luria Glasgow 40
Robert B Glasgow 14
Tennie L Glasgow 13
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Spur, Dickens, Texas; Roll: 2323; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 4; Image: 491.0.
luria is listed as a widow, b. TX, father b. MI and mother b. TX. she says she was married first at age 21. she is a seamstress, owns a house worth $3,000. has a radio.

robert is b. TX, father b. united states.

1920 United States Federal Census about B D Glasgow
Name: B D Glasgow
Home in 1920: Spur, Dickens, Texas
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s Name: Lura Glasgow
Father’s Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Mother’s Birth Place: Missouri
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
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Household Members:
Name Age
B D Glasgow 44
Lura Glasgow 30
Ruth Glasgow 19
George Glasgow 17
Alph Glasgow 14
Robrt Glasgow 3
[3 6/12]
Tennie Glasgow 2
[2 6/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Spur, Dickens, Texas; Roll: T625_1790; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 57; Image: 915.

Texas Death Index, 1903-2000 about Ben G. Glasgow
Name: Ben G. Glasgow
Death Date: 13 Aug 1920
Death County: Dickens
Certificate: 26213
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Benjamin Dickson Glasgow
Name: Benjamin Dickson Glasgow
County: Dickens
State: Texas
Birth Date: 10 Oct 1876
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1953189
DraftBoard: 0

1900 United States Federal Census about B D Glasgow
Name: B D Glasgow
Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Dickens, Texas
[Dickens, Texas]
Age: 23
Birth Date: Oct 1876
Birthplace: Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father’s Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri
Spouse’s Name: Mary E Glasgow
Marriage year: 1899
Marital Status: Married
Years married: 1
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Household Members:
Name Age
B D Glasgow 23
Mary E Glasgow 21
Sam Roberson 12
Mildred Roberson 5
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 1, Dickens, Texas; Roll: T623_1628; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 54.

1880 United States Federal Census about Benjamin Glascow
Name: Benjamin Glascow
Home in 1880: Precinct 4, Young, Texas
Age: 5
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Missouri
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father’s Name: George W. Glasgow
Father’s birthplace: Missouri
Mother’s Name: Julia F. Glasgow
Mother’s birthplace: Missouri
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: At Home
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

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Household Members:
Name Age
George W. Glasgow 35
Julia F. Glasgow 36
Walter L. Glasgow 12
Mary B. Glasgow 11
Faney M. Glascow 8
Benjamin Glascow 5
Rosa Glascow 3
Maggie Glascow 1
Harvey Wright 34
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 4, Young, Texas; Roll: 1334; Family History Film: 1255334; Page: 418C; Enumeration District: 169; .

this might be his mother.
Texas Death Index, 1903-2000 about Luria Hogan Glasgow
Name: Luria Hogan Glasgow
Death Date: 11 Apr 1949
Death County: Travis
Certificate: 17652

if you think these people were native, you should check with the texas tribes and see if they are affiliated with a nearby texas tribe.
some links are in this post.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

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