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ANGLIN/ROUNTREE AND JOHNSON SURNAMES

tria koihomma robinson tria koihomma robinson

posted on September 24, 2011

I AM IN THE PROCESS OF REASERCHING MY FAMILY TREE. I AM HOPEFUL ONE DAY I WILL BE ABLE TO ENROLL. MY GREAT GRANDPARENTS WERE EDGIE ROUNTREE AND JAMES ANGLIN. THERE IS A MARRAGE RECORD FOR THEM FROM STEWART COUNTY TENNESEE IN 1890. MY GREAT AUNT MARY ANGLIN WAS LISTED ON THE CHOCTAW BY BLOOD ROLLS. BUT HER YOUNGER SISTER MY GRANDMOTHER WAS NOT. MY GRANDMOTHER RUBY ANGLIN WAS BORN IN DELAWARE OKLAHOMA IN 1910. SO CLEARLY MY ANCESTORS WERE REMOVED TO INDIAN TERRITORY.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 24, 2011

i have seen the rountree surname spelled as roundtree. you will have to be generous when you are looking for this.

in order to enroll, you will have to show a direct connection to an original enrollee for the tribe. original applicants names were on the dawes roll 1896-1906.

native heritage and native enrollment are two different topics. there were requirements for enrollment for the choctaw tribe and i don’t know whether your relative was able to meet the requirements or not.

the trail of tears occurred in the late 1830’s, from the tribes in the southeastern united states to oklahoma/indian territory. but many moved to oklahoma later. there were also land rushes. people came because of business opportunities or family ties.

you might want to get a copy of mary anglin’s enrollment application, census card and testimony. you can get this from the oklahoma historical society or NARA/national archives and records administration fort worth, TX office.
http://www.archives.gov

Dawes Card Information

tribe

last

first

middle

age

sex

blood

card

roll

misc

type

Choctaw

Anglin

Hezekiah

0

M

5574

P

Choctaw

Anglin

Kate

0

F

5574

P

Choctaw

Anglin

Mary

27

F

1/4

5574

NR

ATOKA

BB

Choctaw

Anglin

Charles

Robert

48

M

IW

5574

NR

ATOKA

BB

Choctaw

Downing

George

0

M

5574

P

Choctaw

Downing

Melissa

0

F

5574

P

p=parent
bb=by blood
iw=intermarried white, a general nontribal description
mary’s maiden name appears to be downing.
they might have been married to a brother of james anglin?

1920 United States Federal Census
about Edgie Anglin

Name:

Edgie Anglin
[Edgie Anglim]

Home in 1920:

Oklahoma City Ward 3, Oklahoma, Oklahoma

Age:

36

Estimated Birth Year:

abt 1884

Birthplace:

Tennessee

Relation to Head of House:

Wife

Spouse’s Name:

John Anglin

Father’s Birth Place:

Tennessee

Mother’s Birth Place:

Tennessee

Marital Status:

Married

Race:

Black

Sex:

Female

Able to read:

Yes

Able to Write:

Yes

Neighbors:

View others on page

Household Members:

Name

Age

John Anglin

49

Edgie Anglin

36

Ruby Anglin

13

Charles Anglin

10

Prince E Anglin

8

Louise Anglin

5

John Anglin

2
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Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Oklahoma City Ward 3, Oklahoma, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1475; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 154; Image: 84.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Edger Anglin

Name:

Edger Anglin
[Edgie Anglin]

Age in 1910:

31

Estimated Birth Year:

1879

Birthplace:

Tennessee

Relation to Head of House:

Wife

Father’s Birth Place:

Tennessee

Mother’s Birth Place:

Tennessee

Spouse’s Name:

John Anglin

Home in 1910:

Oklahoma City Ward 5, Oklahoma, Oklahoma

Marital Status:

Married

Race:

Black

Neighbors:

View others on page

Household Members:

Name

Age

John Anglin

34

Edger Anglin

31

Mannie Anglin

6

Ruby Anglin

3

Chas Anglin

1

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Oklahoma City Ward 5, Oklahoma, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1266; Page: 18B; Enumeration District: 0225; Image: 748; FHL Number: 1375279.

i don’t know where they were living in 1900.

i don’t know if that was their marriage record. could she have been 11 when she was married?

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto