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Ruthie Ruthie

posted on September 19, 2011

I am looking to learn about my father. I never knew him. The only things I know of him are from my mother, who died some years back, and from my father’s obituary. His name was Harold Guess. My mother’s maiden name was Ida Mae Garrett, and according to her, she and my father met and conceived me in 1938 or 1939 when she lived in Hugo, Oklahoma and he lived in Idabel, Oklahoma. I later learned that he lived in Kansas City, Kansas with his family; that was in the late 1960’s when i lived in Kansas City, MO. I wrote him a letter once, but never received a reply, and I am only now seeking knowledge of him due to the insistence of my son and grand daughter. His children are my half sisters and brothers, and I would like to know them, as well as for my children to learn of there heritage.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 19, 2011

harold guess b. ~1920 OK? m. ida mae garrett b.~1920 OK?

if you have the obituaries, you might have more information than this. and you could look him up on the social security death index 1964-present. he would have had a social security application, filed 1/1/1937, and there would have been a birth record filed to show proof of age.

i can search for these names, but there are too many choices. i can’t narrow the search down because i don’t have enough information. so i think the best thing i can do is give you links to the resources that i use.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match

records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information

rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the

maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden

name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward

in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates

and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if

someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security

application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth

certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a

delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and

obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the

interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i

usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military

records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you

where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely

destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things.

many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t

qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they

didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their

ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors

down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by

that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in

the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native

census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some

native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society

website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the

record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be

available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under

genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth,

TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow

office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have

microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has

changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained

a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who

actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US

Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions

granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The

tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application,

census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL

36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no

information about whether or when they will improve some of these

categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is

helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if

they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary

loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are

not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you

want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a

federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893

-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to

a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you

might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the

best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to

me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be

glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 19, 2011

harold guess b. ~1920 OK? m. ida mae garrett b.~1920 OK?

if you have the obituaries, you might have more information than this. and you could look him up on the social security death index 1964-present. he would have had a social security application, filed 1/1/1937, and there would have been a birth record filed to show proof of age.

i can search for these names, but there are too many choices. i can’t narrow the search down because i don’t have enough information. so i think the best thing i can do is give you links to the resources that i use.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match

records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information

rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the

maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden

name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward

in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates

and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if

someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security

application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth

certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a

delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and

obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the

interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i

usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military

records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you

where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely

destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things.

many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t

qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they

didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their

ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors

down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by

that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in

the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native

census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some

native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society

website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the

record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be

available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under

genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth,

TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow

office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have

microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has

changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained

a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who

actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US

Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions

granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The

tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application,

census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL

36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no

information about whether or when they will improve some of these

categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is

helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if

they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary

loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are

not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you

want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a

federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893

-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to

a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you

might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the

best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to

me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be

glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 19, 2011

harold guess b. ~1920 OK? m. ida mae garrett b.~1920 OK?

if you have the obituaries, you might have more information than this. and you could look him up on the social security death index 1964-present. he would have had a social security application, filed 1/1/1937, and there would have been a birth record filed to show proof of age.

i can search for these names, but there are too many choices. i can’t narrow the search down because i don’t have enough information. so i think the best thing i can do is give you links to the resources that i use.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match

records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information

rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the

maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden

name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward

in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates

and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if

someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security

application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth

certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a

delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and

obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the

interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i

usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military

records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you

where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely

destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things.

many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t

qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they

didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their

ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors

down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by

that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in

the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native

census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some

native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society

website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the

record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be

available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under

genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth,

TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow

office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have

microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has

changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained

a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who

actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US

Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions

granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The

tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application,

census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL

36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no

information about whether or when they will improve some of these

categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is

helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if

they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary

loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are

not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you

want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a

federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893

-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to

a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you

might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the

best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to

me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be

glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 19, 2011

harold guess b. ~1920 OK? m. ida mae garrett b.~1920 OK?

if you have the obituaries, you might have more information than this. and you could look him up on the social security death index 1964-present. he would have had a social security application, filed 1/1/1937, and there would have been a birth record filed to show proof of age.

i can search for these names, but there are too many choices. i can’t narrow the search down because i don’t have enough information. so i think the best thing i can do is give you links to the resources that i use.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match

records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information

rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the

maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden

name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward

in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates

and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if

someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security

application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth

certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a

delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and

obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the

interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i

usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military

records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you

where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely

destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things.

many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t

qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they

didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their

ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors

down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by

that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in

the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native

census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some

native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society

website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the

record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be

available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under

genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth,

TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow

office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have

microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has

changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained

a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who

actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US

Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions

granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The

tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application,

census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL

36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no

information about whether or when they will improve some of these

categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is

helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if

they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary

loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are

not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you

want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a

federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893

-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to

a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you

might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the

best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to

me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be

glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto