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Troy Ward Troy Ward

posted on September 9, 2011

My name is Troy Dale Ward. My Choctaw lineage goes back through the Bennetts to the Lowerys who came from Mississippi. I am trying to learn more about my family’s history. My Great Grandfather was Clifford Anderson Bennett, and his mother was Lucy Ann Lowery, married to Thomas Bennett. The roll numbers indicate that the Choctaw blood comes from Lucy, but looking at photos of my great grandpa, he looked full blooded. The records are weird because throughout His mother’s life, she went by several variations of her name. Her mother was Margeret Lowery and her father was Thomas Lowery Sr. Anyhow, as far as I got was a marriage record of Benjamin Lowery and Charity Bond back in Miss. I am trying to learn more about who my ancestors were, and maybe who my living relatives are. Hope someone here can help me put it together.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 10, 2011

it sounds as if you need some resources. this post will give you some websites and give you ideas about how to do genealogy.

start with what you know, gather documents, then you can go backward in time. i often start with the death and collect death records. cemetery records might be online with findagrave.com or interment.com. obituary might be accessed through your local public library, through a state historical society, state genealogical society or state archives. death certificate is often at the state vital records office, or if before 1920, might be at the state archives.

marriage record or birth record could be at the state vital records office, state archives, state genealogical society or state historical society. same with a possible birth record.

census records can help you follow the family migration, can identify family records and relationships. see your local public library about access. libraries usually have access to heritage quest, and you may be able to access it from home. libraries usually have subscriptions to ancestry.com also. census records are available 1790-1930 but the 1890 census was largely burned. the 1940 census will be available in 2012, 72 years after it was taken.. natives living on the reservation were not enumerated on the federal census because they were not taxed. but there are native census records. census records are housed at NARA/national archives and records administration. several native databases and native census records are on accessgenealogy.com. see the left menu on this webpage.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php

you should order the dawes enrollment packet for your family. the packet might be available from http://go.fold3.com/results.php?xid=214&u1=DawesCard&query=Lucinda+Bennett+MCR%204220&s_tribe=Choctaw&type=hard&category=dawes for a cheaper price (if you select monthly) than oklahoma historical society or NARA http://www.archives.gov.

i don’t know if this has to do with your family:
lucinda bennett, age 45, MCR4220
thomas bennett and nancy bennett are also on the card/family group.

tribe

last

first

middle

age

sex

blood

card

roll

misc

type

Choctaw

Bennett

Lucy

E

0

F

NB1223

P

Choctaw

Bennett

Thomas

0

M

NB1223

P

Choctaw

Bennett

Clifford

Anderson

2

M

1/16

NB1223

NB1086

HEALDTON

NB

Choctaw

Bennett

Cretia

Ann

2

F

1/16

NB1223

NB1087

HEALDTON

NB

nb-new born
p-parent

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Bennett Thomas 0 M 4079 P
Choctaw Bennett Minerva E 1 F 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett Margaret V 4 F 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett Joseph C 5 M 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett William T 8 M 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett Lucy E 27 F 1/8 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Lowery Margaret 0 F 4079 P
Choctaw Lowery Thomas 0 M 4079 P

this family group is not filmed on fold3 yet.

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Bennett Lucy E 0 F M438 P
Choctaw Bennett Thomas 0 M M438 P
Choctaw Bennett Christina E 1 F 1/16 M438 732 HEALDTON M

your post doesn’t indicate dates, locations. so i’m just guessing.
if you go to the dawes page
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
and even put in a partial name, you can click on the # in the card# column and it will show you the family group.

you can get a copy of the dawes enrollment packet, which includes the census card and dawes application and other documents. you might even get a copy of the testimony.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

as far as facial features, many natives didn’t enroll because they were either philosophically opposed, or didn’t qualify for tribal membership. and there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes are listed on the dawes roll 1896-1906.

if you find your family on the dawes roll, you should

Troy Ward Troy Ward

posted on September 12, 2011

Thank you!

You are right with the Dawes cards you showed in the last post. For convenience I will repost them:

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Bennett Thomas 0 M 4079 P
Choctaw Bennett Minerva E 1 F 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett Margaret V 4 F 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett Joseph C 5 M 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett William T 8 M 1/16 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Bennett Lucy E 27 F 1/8 4079 NR HEALDTON BB
Choctaw Lowery Margaret 0 F 4079 P
Choctaw Lowery Thomas 0 M 4079 P

Notice that the parents were not Choctaw, according to this information. Does this mean that these were children who were adopted by Thomas and Margeret Lowery?

Also, while I am sure that Clifford Anderson Bennett is my great grandfather, I am troubled by the records of his mother. The roll cards say that her name was Lucinda E Bennett, but the death certificate of Clifford Anderson Bennett shows her name as being Lucy Ann Lowery. It is confusing. I have been using NARA and Ancestry.com to look things up. I really appreciate the resources you have outlined. Thank you!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 13, 2011

no, i think you misinterpreted the transcribed index. the parents won’t have ages and often don’t have tribal enrollment blood quantum. this is not unusual. rather this is the rule. since lucinda was enrolled with 1/8 blood quantum, one or both parents did have blood that qualified for the choctaw tribe. if this is your family, you should get a copy of the dawes application packet. this will include the census card and application, and may include testimony and other records.

order from oklahoma historical society or NARA/national archives and records administration, fort worth office.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/enroll/info.htm

lucinda’s maiden name appears to be lowery and her married name appears to be bennett. the situation with the death certificate is not unusual. many put down the maiden name of the mother, if known.

gl.

Kent L. Reeves Kent L. Reeves

posted on September 26, 2011

Troy, my grandfather was Clifford Bennett. We called him "daddy Cliff. His daughter (my mother) was Kathleen Louise Bennett and she had a brother named Eldon. I don’t know Eldon’s middle name. Both Mom and Eldon have passed away. If I remember correctly, you are the son of Jeanne Ward (Bennett). She had twin sisters Zan and Quin and the last time I heard of them, they lived in Phoenix, Az. I was in Oklahoma last week and was looking at some of the Indian papers my sister has. Daddy Cliff is listed as NB 1086 on the Dawes roll without a name or the blood amount. I don’t have copies of that report but my sister Vicky in Oklahoma does. Let me know your address and phone number and we can talk. Send it through my email address. jkreeves1@cox.net Good Luck