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Susan Susan

posted on September 6, 2011

My nephew has asked for my help in discovering his Choctaw heritage. When he was two, his dentist noticed that he had a shaped molar that indicated American Indian genes. In checking with his paternal grandmother, she said she spent summers on the Choctaw reservation in OK with family. Her maiden name was Sadler. I have identified a Mettie Sadler who was full blood Choctaw and married John Sadler. Mettie’s Enrollment date is 9/25/1902. Anyone have any information on her descendents?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on September 6, 2011

heritage and tribal enrollment are often two different topics. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma, for instance, but only the five major tribes list applicants on the dawes roll 1896-1906.

in doing genealogy, we start with what we know, gather documents, then go backward in time. do you have a copy of his paternal grandmother’s birth certificate? if she is deceased, do you have a copy of her death certificate? her marriage license?

this is the family group of the choctaw family you asked about.

Dawes Card Information
tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Sadler J A 0 M 4648 P
Choctaw Sadler Sally 0 F 4648 P
Choctaw Sadler Alex Matthew 1 M 1/64 4648 NR WASHITA BB
Choctaw Sadler Gracie Eillen 1 F 1/64 4648 NR WASHITA BB
Choctaw Sadler Mettie 20 F 1/32 4648 NR WASHITA BB
Choctaw Sadler John F 38 M IW 4648 NR WASHITA BB
Choctaw Wolf Ellen 0 F 4648 P
Choctaw Wolf Matt 0 M 4648 P

IW=intermarried white, a general nontribal description.
p=parent

i don’t know if this is your relative or a previous wife of john?
CHOCTAW NATION MARRIAGES
GROOM INDEX
1890 – 1907

Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD
COPYRIGHT 27 APR 1992 Mary Kinard

Printed here with the Permission of J.D. Kinard and family for your personal use
NOT TO BE COPIES FOR USE IN ANY COLLECTION FOR PROFIT OR DISPLAY

S SURNAMES

FIVE FEDERAL COURTHOUSES IN CHOCTAW NATION

AT – ATOKA, ATOKA CO. OK, get copy of marriage from LDS Library

BR – DURANT, BRYAN CO. OK. get copy of marriage from Durant

Lf – POTEAU, LEFLORE CO. OK get copy of marriage from Poteau

Mc – McALESTER, PITSBURY CO. OK get copy of marriage from Indian Archives OKC

WIL – WILBURTON, LATIMER CO. OK you may be able to get copy from Muskogee Ok

CODES USED

un – NOT USED
nr – NO RETURN
er – ERROR
col – COLORED

GROOM AGE BRIDE AGE DATE RESIDENCE BOOK©PAGE

SADLER, JOHN E 37 EDWARDS, MARY L 18 9 JAN 1895 TUSHKAHOMA MC5©435
MC – Oklahoma Historical Society
2100 North Lincoln Boulevard
Oklahoma City, OK 73105-4997
(405) 522-5225
Fax (405) 521-2492
http://www.okhistory.org/

unfortunately, this is all the information i can find about this family.

this might be a census record:
1920 United States Federal Census about Alex M Saddler
Name: Alex M Saddler
Home in 1920: Allen, Murray, Oklahoma
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Birth Place: Texas
Mother’s Name: Mittie Saddler
Mother’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mittie Saddler 41
Alex M Saddler 20
Grace Akard 18
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Allen, Murray, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1475; Page: 17B; Enumeration District: 88; Image: 655

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Alex Matthew Sadler
Name: Alex Matthew Sadler
County: Murray
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 3 Dec 1899
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1851889
DraftBoard: 0

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946 about Alex M Sadler
Name: Alex M Sadler
Birth Year: 1899
Race: White, Citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Oklahoma
State of Residence: Oklahoma
County or City: Murray

Enlistment Date: 1 Oct 1942
Enlistment State: Oklahoma
Enlistment City: Oklahoma City
Branch: Branch Immaterial – Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial – Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: Civil Life

Education: Grammar school
Civil Occupation: Farm hands, general farms
Marital Status: Single, with dependents
Height: 68
Weight: 173

ok, there were name spelling problems. you may want to correct ancestry’s name index so that others can find your family, if this is your family.

1910 United States Federal Census about Mattie Sadler
Name: Mattie Sadler
Age in 1910: 31
Estimated Birth Year: 1879
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father’s Birth Place: Texas
Mother’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Home in 1910: Coyle, Murray, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mattie Sadler 31
Elex Mathews 10
Grace Ellem 9
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Coyle, Murray, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1262; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 0201; Image: 1169; FHL Number: 1375275

1930 United States Federal Census about Mattie Saddler
Name: Mattie Saddler
Home in 1930: Allen, Murray, Oklahoma
View Map
Age: 51
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
Race: Indian (Native American)
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mattie Saddler 51
Mat Saddler 30
Ellie Buffington 26
Errett Buttell 45
Monnan Jollys 22
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Allen, Murray, Oklahoma; Roll: 1914; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 1; Image: 842.0

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Susan Susan

posted on September 7, 2011

Thank you so much for your help. I will read, digest and research!!