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William B. Young Roll# 3026

Garland J. Walker Garland J. Walker

posted on August 26, 2011

I have been searching for my Grandmother Gethie ( Gertrude) Naomi Young born 1894 Corinth Miss. Died 1941 Dallas Texas. Her Father by death Cert. Was Billy Young and some info I have said William Billy Young and William B. Young… I have the Dawes and Miller rolls on CD and was searching in the Choctaws . I found William B. Young at 19 yearsold roll# 3026. This would put him about the right age… I would like to know if anyone has any information on William B. Young…. Contact me at

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 26, 2011

billy/william young no dates, location, spouse
gertrude/gethie naomi young b. 1894 MS d. no date, dallas, TX

since your relatives were b. in MS, and didn’t live in OK, i think the chances are very slim that they are on the dawes roll. the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906 in oklahoma and it shows applicants to the five major tribes. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma.

maybe your family is mississippi choctaw or another tribe. you should look at the state archives, state historical society, state genealogical society. location is a big indicator of affiliation with a tribe.

heritage and tribal enrollment are two different topics. many natives did not enroll in a tribe. some were philosophically opposed, some did not qualify for enrollment.
enrollm was controversial.

you might look at MS, around the area where naomi was born. corinth, MS is in alcorn county.

these are the family groups for a possible william young:
Dawes Card Information
tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Young Mary R 0 F MCR882 P
Choctaw Young Vina 0 F MCR882 P
Choctaw Young William B 0 M MCR882 P
Choctaw Young Ola May 15 F 1/16 MCR882 MCR
Choctaw Young Earl 17 M 1/16 MCR882 MCR
Choctaw Young James F 47 M 1/8 MCR882 MCR

MCR=mississippi choctaw refused. mississippi choctaw is a separate tribe, links in this post.

naomi would be on the dawes roll, if her father was on the dawes roll.

Dawes Card Information
tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw May William A 0 M MCR 5941 P
Choctaw May Vernice H 1 M 1/32 MCR 5941 CLOVEDALE MCR
Choctaw May Annie V 4 F 1/32 MCR 5941 CLOVEDALE MCR
Choctaw May Etoil E 9 F 1/32 MCR 5941 CLOVEDALE MCR
Choctaw May Andrew J 13 M 1/32 MCR 5941 CLOVEDALE MCR
Choctaw May Sudie E 18 F 1/32 MCR 5941 CLOVEDALE MCR
Choctaw May Emmet P 20 M 1/32 MCR 5941 CLOVEDALE MCR
Choctaw May Emma P 37 F 1/16 MCR 5941

Choctaw Young Mary R 0 F MCR 5941 P
Choctaw Young William B 0 M MCR 5941 P

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Wakefield Bill 0 M 3026 P
Choctaw Young Bev 0 M 3026 P
Choctaw Young Elizabeth 0 F 3026 P
Choctaw Young Jesse 1 M 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Dollie 2 F 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Lizzie 2 F 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Levi 4 M 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Matilda E 10 F 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Robert 12 M 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Eli D 14 M 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young William B 16 M 1/32 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Catherine 37 F IW 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
Choctaw Young Jeff 38 M 1/16 3026 NR ENTERPRISE BB
bb=by blood
iw=intermarried white, a general nontribal description

card #’s are family groups.

there are no records for gethie/gertrude naomi young.

it looks as if you will have to trace your family back to the 1830-1900 time period and see if a land grant was given to a head of household for tribal termination.

always, look on the federal census records and trace your family using genealogy FIRST. then look at the possible tribes.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto