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Looking for Ggrandmother's family. Callie Jackson born about 1884

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on July 29, 2010 and updated on July 29, 2010

I am looking for information on my Ggrandmother’s family. Her name was Callie Jackson and she was full blood Choctaw. She married my Ggrandfather Thomas Keith in Bache, OK on March 6,1904. I would like to know who her family was if possible. I also have distant Keith relatives in the McAlester area if any of them see this feel free to contact me at keithclan6@yahoo.com.

Thanks!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 29, 2010

callie jackson b. ~1884 TN m. thomas keith b.~1873 AL 3/6/1904
children james b. 1905, harry/hershell b. 1907, harold/horace b. 1908, bruce b. 1911, creasy b. 1914, tom b. 1917 OK, sylvester b. 1921 OK

1910 United States Federal Census
about Thomas Maith
Name: Thomas Maith
[Thomas Keith]
Age in 1910: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Alabama
Spouse’s name: Callie
Home in 1910: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Maith 37
Callie Maith 24
James Maith 5
Harry Maith 3
Harold Maith 1 6/12

1910 United States Federal Census
about Callie Maith
Name: Callie Maith
[Callie Keith]
Age in 1910: 24
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father’s Birth Place: North Carolina
Mother’s Birth Place: North Carolina

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1269; Page: 24B; Enumeration District: 218; Image: 890.
thomas is a switchman in a coal mine.
children b. OK.

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma; Roll T625_1484; Page: 9A; Enumeration District: 187; Image: 125.

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Rainier, Columbia, Oregon; Roll 1941; Page: 2B and 3A; Enumeration District: 21; Image: 705.0.
thomas is a resawman in a sawmill.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Callie Jackson
Name: Callie Jackson
Home in 1900: Township 7, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 18
Birthplace: Texas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Name: Robert J
Father’s Birthplace: Arkansas
Mother’s Name: Sarah B
Mother’s Birthplace: Iowa
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert J Jackson 48
Sarah B Jackson 44
Callie Jackson 18
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 7, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll T623_1851; Enumeration District: 87.
township 7 N, range 23 E
callie b. 9/1881 TX

is this your relative?

Social Security Death Index
about Thomas Keith
Name: Thomas Keith
SSN: 543-09-7803
Last Residence: Oregon
Born: 20 Aug 1872
Died: Jun 1964
State (Year) SSN issued: Oregon (Before 1951)

oregon records: http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/vital.html
oklahoma records:
http://www.ok.gov/health/Birth_and_Death_Certificates/

there is a callie jackson on the dawes roll but they are listed as a parent of a family and are probably male.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial characters in the front of a name are acceptable.

if she is deceased after 1/1/1937, you could get a copy of her social security application, which would give you dates, locations and parents’ names. when she applied for social security, she probably submitted a delayed birth certificate because birth certificates were rare on the frontier. you could probably get a copy of that also.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather thann less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on August 4, 2010 and updated on August 10, 2010

Callie Jackson d. 12/07/1949

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 4, 2010

Dawes Results
Total Records: 8 Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Jackson Alex 40 M FULL MCR5097 908 COFFADELIAH MS MCR
Choctaw Jackson Callie 0 F MCR5097 P
Choctaw Jackson Conway 4 M FULL MCR5097 909 COFFADELIAH MS MCR
Choctaw Jackson Fannie 14 F FULL MCR5097 909 COFFADELIAH MS MCR
Choctaw Jackson Franklin 12 M FULL MCR5097 909 COFFADELIAH MS MCR
Choctaw Jackson Mary 0 F MCR5097 P
Choctaw Jackson Soloman 18 M FULL MCR5097 909 COFFADELIAH MS MCR
Choctaw Jackson Sonie 5 F FULL MCR5097 909 COFFADELIAH MS MCR

have you contacted the genealogy advocate with this tribe?
Vicki Prough, Genealogy Advocate (800) 522-6170

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on August 5, 2010

Suzanne,
No I have not contacted anyone. After doing more research I don not think that is my great grandmother Callie Jackson. That Callie had two children and I do not think my great grandmother had any children before meeting my great grandfather.
I would like to try this Robert Jackson you have listed in a previous post. She is about the correct age and in the same area. There could not have been too many Callie Jackson’s of that same age running around Bache Ok in 1902!

Robert Jackson 43 Male Full CC#3789 Page 64 Enr#10695 Choctaws by Blood (BB)

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on August 5, 2010 and updated on August 5, 2010

Suzanne,

I just found out that Callie’s parents were named, William (Bill) Jackson and Amanda L Davis.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 5, 2010

ok, so the 1910-1930 census records are probably correct.
do you have thomas keith’s death certificate? how about callie’s?

you just found out her parents’ names? from what document?

do you have a copy of their marriage license?
CHOCTAW NATION MARRIAGES
GROOM INDEX
1890 – 1907

Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD
COPYRIGHT 27 APR 1992 Mary Kinard

Printed here with the Permission of J.D. Kinard and family for your personal use
NOT TO BE COPIES FOR USE IN ANY COLLECTION FOR PROFIT OR DISPLAY

K SURNAMES

FIVE FEDERAL COURTHOUSES IN CHOCTAW NATION AT – ATOKA, ATOKA CO. OK, get copy of marriage from LDS Library BR – DURANT, BRYAN CO. OK. get copy of marriage from Durant Lf – POTEAU, LEFLORE CO. OK get copy of marriage from Poteau Mc – McALESTER, PITSBURY CO. OK get copy of marriage from Indian Archives OKC WIL – WILBURTON, LATIMER CO. OK you may be able to get copy from Muskogee Ok CODES USED un – NOT USED nr – NO RETURN er – ERROR col – COLORED

GROOM AGE BRIDE AGE DATE RESIDENCE BOOK©PAGE
KEITH, THOMAS 30 JACKSON, CALLIE 20 6 MAR 1904 BACHE Mc11©131
MC – Oklahoma Historical Society
2100 North Lincoln Boulevard
Oklahoma City, OK 73105-4997
(405) 522-5225
Fax (405) 521-2492
http://www.okhistory.org/

I called and was told – but please double check
Search fee – state residents $5.00
out of state – $20.00
McAlester marriages are on microfilm and copy will be $1.00 plus $1.50 postage and handling.

yes, this is a common surname.

i don’t see a callie here:

1900 United States Federal Census
about Amanda Jackson
Name: Amanda Jackson
Home in 1900: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 33
Birthplace: Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s name: William A
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William A Jackson 35
Amanda Jackson 33
Nellie W Jackson 14
Permcie E Jackson 12
William Jackson 9
Guertie Jackson 7
Earl Jackson 6
Robert E Jackson 5
Deanie Jackson 1
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 4, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll T623_1852; Enumeration District: 102.

maybe nellie is callie?

i don’t see any callie jackson records in the 1900 census with a mother amanda.

with that dawes link, if you find someone, you can click on the # in the card column and it will show you the family group. card#’s are family groups.

it sounds as if you want tribal enrollment information but are not able to find your family on the dawes roll.
are you wanting genealogical information or only tribal enrollment?

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on August 5, 2010

I would like both genealogical information and tribal enrollment. I got the names of her parents from her death records, Cowlitz county Washington Dec 7 1949 was her death date. Enrollment was something my dad always wanted but never got before he passed.
Yes, Thomas and Callie were married on May 6, 1904 in Bache. I have sent to the Pittsburg County Genealogical Society to find out how to obtain a marriage certificate copy. I do not know why she is not listed with the family. She would have been older than Nellie and her middle name started with an M. I do not have Callie’s death certificate but I can obtain one from Cowlitz County (WA) where she died.
What Dawes link are you talking about?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 6, 2010

ok, then you should start with the death certificate for callie.
http://www.co.cowlitz.wa.us/health/vitalrecords/vitalrecord.htm
it refers you to the washington state vital records.
this is local to me, btw.
you can probably get the obituary through interlibrary loan, if your local library doesn’t have the newspaper.

dawes roll:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial characters in the front of a name are acceptable.

marriage certificate available here http://www.okhistory.org/

there were many mississippi choctaw and other tribes that did not qualify for enrollment in one of the five major tribes listed on the dawes roll. use geographic location in oklahoma and her parents’ birthplaces to guide you on that.
some tribes listed here:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
natives of a tribe generally lived near each other.
there are federally recognized tribes and state recognized tribes in each state.

write to me and i will send you some resources that i have developed. shamlet76@gmail.com

callie jackson, b. about 1886 TN or AL, parents b. NC, it appears.

even if i widen my search to the whole united states, i am not finding your relative with similar informamtion. this is not particularly unusual, since many families were illiterate and we didn’t use names, ages, locations as primary identification, as we do now.

her social security application would have information for you. since you know where and when she passed away, her name at the time of her passing, you might find information in her social security application. it would have her parents’ names, her birthplace and birthdate. anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 has an application on file. after you get her birthdate and birth location, you can request a copy of her birth certificate or delayed birth certificate from the state where she was born.

the 1890 census was burned, or i would try to look her up there. but since it doesn’t exist, that is no help.

those are the directions i would go, to try to get over the callie information hump.

with her parents, the links to the side and bottom of the dawes roll webpage might help you, particular database, rolls and native census records.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 6, 2010

i just looked on rootsweb and someone left a worldconnect record there. you should contact the person who posted it.
66418
Entries: 3055 Updated: Sat Aug 25 21:39:03 2001 Contact: Unknown
Index | Descendancy | Register | Download GEDCOM | Add Post-em

  1. ID: I0552
  2. Name: Callie JACKSON
  3. Sex: F
  4. Birth: ABT. 1884
  5. Death: 7 DEC 1949
  6. Burial: Green Mtn South, Rainier, Oregon Row 26 Sp 6
  7. Note: Family had moved to IT from Georgia.

another person who lists callie
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/p/Mary-K-Copeland/ODT1-0009.html

sorry i can’t tell you more.

i didn’t see any census record that said that she came from georgia.

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on August 6, 2010

How do I contact them? All I am getting is frustrated!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 6, 2010

go to http://www.rootsweb.com
and put in callie jackson and then click on worldconnect records and search for the last name of keith and that should give you some choices. click on the family tree. if it is yours, write to their email addresses that are visible or add a post-em if they are not.

for the other familly tree:
paste this link in your browser:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/p/Mary-K-Copeland/ODT1-0009.html
email address visible here:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/p/Mary-K-Copeland/index.html

you need to get used to following links, searching.
if you want my list of resources, you will have to write me and ask for the choctaw resource list.
shamlet76@gmail.com

Aaron Keith Aaron Keith

posted on August 6, 2010

Callie had a brother named Robert Andrew Jackson. There were 5 boys and 4 girls in the family. I don’t have any other names. Her parents are burried in Red Oak Cemetery in Bache, Ok.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 6, 2010

maybe this was the brother:
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert A Jackson 35
Sallie M Jackson 33
Rachel Jackson 8
Almer Jackson 5
Floyd Jackson 3
Velmer Jackson 10/12

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1269; Page: 23A; Enumeration District: 218; Image: 887.
b. TN, parents b. TN

maybe this is their parents?
ame Age
William A Jackson 56
Ella Jackson 42
Dexter Jackson 13
Grace Jackson 9

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Dow, Pittsburg, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1269; Page: 23B; Enumeration District: 218; Image: 888.

but i think you’re likely going to have to get her social security application and see what that says. get her death certificate. then write for her delayed birth certifricate.