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Morris / Goins / Jones

Michael Michael

posted on August 1, 2011

Seeking any information related to my Great, Great Grandmother, Sarah Jane Morris (b. Sep. 1868 d. Sep 1958 in Ada, OK), my Great, Great Grandfather Frank Jones (1846 – 1958), or my Great, Great, Great Grandmother, Caroline Goins (1827-1889) or her Father, Jeremiah Goins (1792-1883)from Natchez, Mississippi.

Any relation to Frank Jones IW Enr# 489?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 1, 2011

there is no location for birth for sarah jane morris. likewise, no location for many of the other names either.

the treaty of rabbit creek was signed and then the federal government ordered the choctaw to go to indian territory/oklahoma. they set up depots where they could register to go. this was called the trail of tears in the late 1830’s. some people didn’t want to go, and were referred to as mississippi choctaw. later, the government gave some of these natives land scrip grants in lieu of tribal enrollment. in 1929, the federal government recognized this tribe as mississippi choctaw.

do you have a copy of the enrollment application, the census card, and the testimony? try NARA national archives and records administration, fort worth office http://www.archives.gov or the oklahoma historical society
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/

Last Name First Name Age Sex Blood Census Card No. Tribe & Enrollment
Jones Frank 47 Male I W CC# 163 Page 117 Enr# 489 Choctaws – by Intermarriage
the cc# will give you the family names.
Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Izzard George 0 M 163 P
Choctaw Izzard Sarah 0 F 163 P
Choctaw Jones Catherine 0 F 163 P
Choctaw Jones Levi 0 M 163 P
Choctaw Jones Bertie Page 1 M 1/64 163 14494 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Henry B 1 M 1/64 163 14495 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Minnie Etta 1 F 1/64 163 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Una May 3 F 1/64 163 14203 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Sadie 6 F 1/64 163 14493 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Della 8 F 1/64 163 14492 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Burr 10 M 1/64 163 14491 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Georgia 11 F 1/64 163 14490 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Effie 13 F 1/64 163 14489 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Salina Izzard 35 F 1/32 163 14488 WYNNEWOOD BB
Choctaw Jones Frank 43 M IW 163 IW489 WYNNEWOOD BB
bb=by blood
p=parent

IW=intermarried white, a general nontribal description. as you point out, this may mean that the native blood was not allowed as tribal blood.

i am not sure how caroline goins and jeremiah goins relate to the jones family.

1850 United States Federal Census
about Jeremiah Goins
Name: Jeremiah Goins
Age: 58
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1792
Birth Place: Mississippi
Color: Yellow (Asian)
Gender: Male
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Precinct 3, Limestone, Texas
Family Number: 163
Household Members:
Name Age
Jeremiah Goins 58
Charity Goins 58
Ransom Goins 24
Schern Goins 22
Caroline Goins 20
Robert Goins 19
James Goins 16
Robert Goins 14
Reuben Goins 13
Adaline Goins 15
Emaly Goins 9
Jerimiah Goins 5
Mary Goins 2
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Precinct 3, Limestone, Texas; Roll: M432_912; Page: 366A; Image: 310.

there are 62 family trees on ancestry.com citing caroline/carolyn goins/goings. if you don’t have a subscription to ancestry.com, you should see your local public library. if i were you, i would contact them for information.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Michael Michael

posted on August 2, 2011

Thank you very much for the information! I greatly appreciate it. I apologize for being vague in the request:

Jeremiah Goins →Caroline Goins → Sarah Jane Morris (would be the right age to have signed the Dawes rolls) who married Frank Jones.

I believe that we do have the heritage, but not the tribal enrollment. Thanks again for your help.
Michael

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 2, 2011

yes, that could very well happen. look up the goings/goins surname with google and tribes. you may find them associated with melungeons and choctaw, possibly a tribe like redbone.

the frank jones line might be mississippi choctaw.