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Brittany Bruce Brittany Bruce

posted on July 21, 2011

My name is Brittany Bruce,Im trying to find any information i can on my Great Great Grandmother Last name Cash first Nancy (Cash E Nancy). She was married to Dave Bruce. They had 4 sons and 4 daughters together. Address Briartown,OK, family Census (1673) any information would help.
Thank You

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 22, 2011

no dates in your post. no children. genealogists use name, spouse, children, location and dates to match records.

there is a nancy e. cash on the dawes roll. is this your family?
Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Cherokee Brewer Elizabeth 0 F 1673 P
Cherokee Brewer John 0 M 1673 P
Cherokee Cash Amanda 0 F 1673 P
Cherokee Cash James M 0 M 1673 P
Cherokee Cash James M 11 M 1/4 1673 4465 BB
Cherokee Cash James A 44 M IW 1673 23020 BB
Cherokee Cash Nancy E 46 F 1/2 1673 4464 BB

p=parent
bb=by blood
IW=intermarried white, a general nontribal description

this is what makes me think that she might be your relative:
More About NANCY ELLEN BREWER:
1880 Census [CN]: Canadian, 1489 as Nancy E West
1890 Census [CN]: Canadian, 2119 as Eller Cash
1902-07 Dawes roll: card# 1673, roll# 4464 as Nancy E Cash
1906-09 Miller roll: Briartown, OK, ap# 5043, roll# 6943 as Nancy Ella Cash
Blood: 1/2 Cherokee
Burial: Briartown Cem, Briartown, Muskogee Co, OK

Children of FRANKLIN WEST and NANCY BREWER are:
863. i. JOHN BREWER8 WEST, b. March 30, 1875, Canadian Dist, CNW; d. December 29, 1910, Oklahoma.
864. ii. RICHARD FRANKLIN WEST, b. July 27, 1879, Canadian Dist, CNW; d. April 02, 1977, Muskogee Co, OK.
iii. RUTH ELLA WEST, b. January 1884; d. September 1884.
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/h/i/c/James-R-Hicks-VA/BOOK-0001/0015-0068.html

but i don’t see a reference to david bruce in this genealogy. maybe you can see why dates, children are important.

while the person who posted the genealogy cites the dawes record, i am not sure that those are the same person.

and i don’t see a reference to a david bruce here:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSvcid=63951&GRid=30076436&

i usually start with the death and work backwards in time. do you have an obituary? see your local public library/interlibrary loan program for that. do you have a death certificate? see the oklahoma state archives or oklahoma vital records or oklahoma historical society for that. do you know where she was buried?

then you can try to get her marriage record, a birth record.
anyone who was alive 1/1/1937 filed a social security record. they had to show proof of age, so they submitted a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate.

childrens’ records point to the parents, fix a family to a location and date. so you should have documents on the children.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto