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John "Dutch" Spring Jr.

Jonathan S. Chilton Jonathan S. Chilton

posted on July 27, 2010

John (Dutch) Spring Jr. is my grandfather. He is my mother Katherine Spring Chilton’s father.

My grandpa Spring is enrolled as a 5/8 Choctaw with the Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma. His father, John Spring Sr., is an Original Enrollee as well. And so is his mother Nancy McCoy. His grandparents are William M. Spring and Jane Leflore Spring. His parental great-grandparents are Christopher Columbus Spring and Susan Bohannon Spring.

My mother Katherine Spring Chilton’s CDIB (Certificate Degree of Indian Blood) shows her as 5/16 and I am registered as 5/32. We are proud of our Choctaw Indian heritage and many of John Spring Jr.s’ descendants are registered as well.

According to the Choctaw “original” enrollment, “The Dawes Commission”:

My grandfather John Spring Jr. #3861, 5/8 Choctaw.
His wife, my grandmother, Ruth Neveda Cooper Spring, classified as white.

My great-grandfather John Spring Sr. #3855, ½ Choctaw.
His wife, my great-grandmother Nancy McCoy Spring #3856 , ¾ Choctaw.

My great-great-grandfather William M. Spring #3854, ¼ Choctaw
His wife, my great-great-grandmother Jane Laflore Spring, ¾ Choctaw.
She died before being enrolled.

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Jonathan S. Chilton Jonathan S. Chilton

posted on July 27, 2010

For those interested I have available a GEDcom file that goes back 8 generations.

I am working on another Family Tree File which once completed (January 2011) will take my lineage back to 100 AD and beyond.

Jonathan

Jonathan S. Chilton Jonathan S. Chilton

posted on July 27, 2010

Another File regarding John Spring Jr.

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 29, 2010

have you seen this?
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/people/original-enrollees/spring-john-sr/

http://www.choctawnation.com/history/people/original-enrollees/spring-john-dutch-jr/

and you should certainly check out
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=self&id=I3091
and the http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com worldconnect records, the surname messageboards.

there are many people who are interested in the genealogy of this line and cousins who left family trees usually welcome the contact.

several natives left interviews done by the WPA called indian pioneer papers.
http://www.okgenweb.org/pioneer/s.htm
check the about to find out how to get copies, if they aren’t available online. you might be able to work through the interlibrary loan program with your local public library.

jennifer has a very nice website too:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/leflore_m.html

and this is the leflore forum on genealogy.com
http://genforum.genealogy.com/leflore/

Jonathan S. Chilton Jonathan S. Chilton

posted on August 1, 2010

Suzanne,
My post is not seeking help. It is for information purposes.
I do subscribe to Ancestry.com and have a Family Tree researched through the Chilton and Spring name. Currently I am at 60 B. C. of a couple of Roman ancestors.
As noted in my Post I have what I call two Family Trees: (1) I call local is extensive of current family member (cousins, aunts, Uncles) back to 1700’s. (2) is my Family Tree on Ancestry.com where I chased parents (not necessarily cousins, aunts and Uncles). Mainly to see how for back I could trace my roots. This Family Tree has been given 5 stars. I. e. when you reference it, it has 5 stars by the information referenced from it.
My post reference John Dutch Spring Jr has corrected information reference the article posted by the Choctaw Nation Website you refer to. I have sent Vonna S. the webmaster the corrected information. However, the articles still posted both on John Dutch Spring Jr. and the one ref his John Spring Sr have not been corrected. A Samuells couple now in their 80’s from Canadian, Oklahoma wrote a book about some of the original enrollee. It has a lot of inaccurate information,but since it is a published work it seems the Webmaster honors it above first hand information provided by myself and John Spring Jr descendants.
I have consulted the Pioneers Papers via OK’s website.
I have met several “cousins” throughout the US as I do my research. This is rewarding to me. Now if I could contact Debi who posted the Leflore/Gardner post where she says she is a 6th granddaughter to Chief Thomas LeFlore, I could tell her that he is my GGGG-Uncle making us cousins. This message board needs a way for us to directly contact one another such as Ancestry.com has.
Thanks.