Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

The Great Seal of the Choctaw Nation
RSS

SMITH/PADICK/MATTHEWS FAMILY LINE

Brenda Taft Edwards, Granddaughter Clorie "Clora" Smith Brenda Taft Edwards, Granddaughter Clorie "Clora" Smith

posted on June 22, 2011 and updated on October 4, 2011

I am the grandaughter of Clorie “Clora” Smith (11/1904 – 8/1967, Dawes NB269). Her mother was Sarah E. Matthews and Sarah is the daughter of Andrew J. Matthews (Dawes 1297) and Nancy Jane Paddick (d. 1898). Sarah married Rice (could be Reece) Smith and I can only confirm my grandmother as their child.

My oldest sister remembers my grandmother talking to her about being raised in Oklahoma and that her Indian name had Moon in it, but that is all she can remember.

If anyone has any information concerning any member of this family, please email me. We would like to find my grandmother’s relatives and get to know them.

Andrew J. Matthews
Nancy Jane Padick
Anna Matthews
Anna Smith
Elmer Smith
SIlway Gibson

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 23, 2011

you should check your dates. nancy jane passed away in 1898 and then had your grandmother in 1906? i am not trying to embarass you, but this doesn’t give me many clues, when i know that one of the clues cannot possibly be true.

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Smith R C 0 M NB269 P
Choctaw Smith Sarah E 0 F NB269 P
Choctaw Smith Clorie 1 F 1/64 NB269 NB267 WESLEY NB

p=parent

if this your family, you should get a copy of the dawes application, census card and testimony. the parents would be listed on another card, probably with more of the family. there are directions about how to find the family in this post.

there are over 50 sarah smith records on the dawes roll, but most of the choctaw records list many sarah smiths as being mississippi choctaw, so i don’t know if one of them is related to you.

you did not tell me what source of information that you are using, so i cannot go any further with this.
if anyone passed away after 1/1/1937, you can ask for their social security application, which would have date and place of birth, name of parents. and they would have submitted a record of birth or delayed birth certificate to show proof of age.

i would suggest that you start with what you know, gather documents, then go backward in time. i often start with the death and get the obituary (through your local public library), death certificate (state vital records office), and cemetery record (findagrave.com or interment.com). then you can look for the marriage record, and finally the birth record. there are census records to help, 1790-1930, and the 1940 census will be public in 2012.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Robin Williamson Robin Williamson

posted on June 25, 2011

hello… I am also searching for the name Smith. All that I know is my grandmother was Blanch G Smith, married name Farrar. She was from Ada, Oklahoma. Born in 1904. Her mother was Fannie Nelson Smith, maybe from Mississippi. Nelson I think was her maiden name. Possibly married twice, not real sure. Blanch left Oklahoma after she married and moved to Texas, where she lived untill passing.
I am searching my family history to learn more of who I am and also hoping to connect with some family members. Contact me at…. myseeinghands@yahoo.com Thank You.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 25, 2011

please put your inquiry on a different thread so that others can find it. they may have information for you but wouldn’t see it because this post is about a different family.

i will look at the ancestry information i can find.

currently, the accessgenealogy website is down, which would give the names of family, however there are other sources of information on the internet, such as oklahoma historical society.