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Cariker Hunter Family Looking for Levisa Hunter

Kathleen Horton Kathleen Horton

posted on June 22, 2011

My gr. grannie was from near Bokoshe, Poteau, LeFlore, Clayton areas in Oklahoma. I know she was Choctaw—she took me and parents into council house, then out to old meeting ground in woods used before council house built.
Her father had 2 sisters to wife at same time in 1870’s-80’s (I know it was 40 yrs. too late for tribal custom) The man’s name was Cariker, the first sister’s children went by his name, my grannie Levisa and other children of second sister went by name of Hunter. I know some of her 1/2 siblings were enrolled Choctaw.
Her name shows on census in LeFlore/Poteau area, but why would both Levisa and Jincy names show up as Levisa Hunter, Jincy Hunter, AND as Levisa LeFlore, Jincy LeFlore with nearly same ages for both names on same census page/area?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 22, 2011

what census? there were many census taken. further, many families used the same or similar names. this is not very unusual.

you have to go by the documents. do you have the death certificate (vital records of the state), the obituary (public library/interlibrary loan program), and cemetery record (findagrave.com or interment.com). do you have their marriage records. how about their birth certificate or delayed birth certificate.

anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 has a social security application on file. often this can help you with dates, locations, spouses, parents, maiden names.

it is difficult to reach back in time and try to find records if you don’t have the basic records. census records are useful to show location and relatives.

you have mentioned few dates that can help in a search. i don’t know when levisa or jincy was born, whether they were married 1896-1906, what their mothers name was.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Kathleen Horton Kathleen Horton

posted on June 23, 2011

Thanks for the leads. Levisa (lLouvicey) Hunter was born in 1879, shows in Choctaw census 1880, married Luther May on 12/15/1898 (shows up in Choctaw Nation marriage records), died December 1963. Was MC denied in Dawes, family didn’t have $$ to join lawsuit. Gov’t listed her as a Freedman, confusing her name with another Levisa May who was about 60 yrs. older at the time.

Her father was Daniel Cariker (Confedrate veteran), 1/2 siblings were: David, John, Liddy, Billy, Ike, Frank, George, Doll, Julie, Louella Cariker. Full sibling was Barney Hunter. Jincy figures in somewhere, but I am not sure where. I believe some of these had enrollment. Do not have mother’s name or mother’s sister’s name. Where would I look?

Once had followed Luther May (born 1875) back to a card that had “Apushanatubbee” on it as a notation. What did that mean?

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 23, 2011

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

you should look for them on the us census records 1900-1930.

i don’t know of an 1880 choctaw census, so i have no clue there.

do you have a copy of the marriage license for louvicey hunter and luther may? you can try the oklahoma historical society for this. their webpage is given in the previous post.

Apushanatubbee would be a choctaw transliterated name.

if you get stuck on anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937, it might be a good idea to get a copy of their social security application which would list dates and locations and names of parents.

gl.