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Sarin Sarin

posted on June 8, 2011

I am looking for information about my great grandmother, Gussie Windgate and her family she was born around 1905 in Marengo Alabama

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on June 8, 2011

you might check into the MOWA tribe and the mississippi choctaw.

i don’t know if windgate is a married name or maiden name. there is no spouse, no children in your post. no date of death or place of death. genealogists use dates, locations, children, spouse to match records.

i often start with the death: cemetery record, obituary, death certificate and then work backwards in time to the marriage, birth. census records are helpful. your local public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Gussie Windgate
Name: Gussie Windgate
[Gussie Wingate]
Age in 1910: 5
Estimated Birth Year: 1905
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s name: John T Windgate
Father’s Birth Place: Georgia
Mother’s name: Lucy Windgate
Mother’s Birth Place: Alabama
Home in 1910: Hills, Marengo, Alabama
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Windgate 55
Lucy Windgate 45
Connie Windgate 23
John Windgate 18
Ernest Windgate 16
Hazel Windgate 14
Gladise Windgate 12
Madge Windgate 10
Houston Windgate 7
Gussie Windgate 5
Lillian Windgate 1 9/12
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Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Hills, Marengo, Alabama; Roll: T624_24; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 0050; Image: 1112; FHL Number: 1374037.

Name: Gussie Wingate
[Gussie Wingatie]
[Gussie Wingerter]
[User-Submitted-Comment]
Home in 1920: Linden, Marengo, Alabama
Age: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father’s Birth Place: Alabama
Mother’s name: Lucey Wingate
Mother’s Birth Place: Alabama
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Lucey Wingate 56
John Wingate 27
Ernest Wingate 25
Gussie Wingate 14
Lillian Wingate 11
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Linden, Marengo, Alabama; Roll: T625_31; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 59; Image: 942.

Name: Earnest Wingate
[Ernest Wingate]
[Ernest Gordon Wingate]
Home in 1900: Linden, Marengo, Alabama
Age: 6
Birth Date: Nov 1893
Birthplace: Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s name: John T Wingate
Father’s Birthplace: Alabama
Mother’s name: Lucy Wingate
Mother’s Birthplace: Alabama
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Wingate 46
Lucy Wingate 30
Coney Wingate 10
Bessie D Wingate 9
John Wingate 7
Earnest Wingate 6
Hazel Wingate 4
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Linden, Marengo, Alabama; Roll: T623_29; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 67.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto