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Cheif Victor Locke Jr.

Steve Locke Steve Locke

posted on May 29, 2011 and updated on May 29, 2011

I am hoping that someone can give me some information to the decendents of Victor Locke Jr. I think this may be my grand father. I am attaching a photo of my self.

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 30, 2011

you have to do your genealogy. some people who put family trees on the internet (like rootsweb.com or have other webpages) may not list all children in a family.

you start with what you know, gather documents, then go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you will have more information to find your grandparents.

census records are useful to find families. they will release the 1940 census in 2012, but the 1900-1930 census might be able to help you. access through heritage quest or ancestry.com. your local public library probably has a subscription to both. usually, libraries let you access heritage quest through their website, from home.

birth records are necessary, as are marriage license. other documents might be helpful such as death certificate, cemetery record, obituary. there are many cemetery records on the internet, such as findagrave.com and this is a work in progress. many genealogists have gone to cemetery and taken pictures, noted the people in the cemetery, but not all cemeteries have been transcribed yet.

you can get a death record from the state vital records or state archives, depending on how old the record is. this is true of birth records.

there might be newspaper mentions of deaths, births, marriages or other events. see your local public library about the interlibrary loan program. this is also useful way to get a copy of the obituary.

if you get stuck on anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937, you might be able to get a copy of the social security application. to show proof of age, many people submitted a delayed birth certificate to show proof of age. if you are looking for a birth certificate, also ask for a delayed birth certificate from vital records.

http://www.choctawnation.com/history/people/chiefs/1910—-victor-locke-jr-/
this might be his family on the dawes roll:

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Archer Mary 20 F 1/4 1735 4913 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Keith Bettie 0 F 1735 P
Choctaw Keith W M 0 M 1735 P
Choctaw Locke Susan P 0 F 1735 P
Choctaw Locke V M 0 M 1735 P
Choctaw Locke Curtis 1 M 1/8 1735 4917 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Locke Edwin S 12 M 1/4 1735 4916 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Locke Jesse N 14 M 1/4 1735 4915 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Locke Ben D 17 M 1/4 1735 4914 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Locke Mattie B 20 F IW 1735 IW180 ANTLERS BB
Choctaw Locke Victor M 23 M 1/4 1735 4912 ANTLERS BB
p=parent
IW=intermarried white, a general nontribal descriiption
bb=by blood

http://www.okgenweb.org/~okchocta/ipp/victor_locke_jr_1st_interview.htm

http://okgenweb.org/~okchocta/ipp/victor_locke_jr_2nd_interview.htm

http://okgenweb.org/~okchocta/ipp/victor_locke_jr_3rd_interview.htm

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto