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researching Turnbull genealogy

jason tomlinson jason tomlinson

posted on July 20, 2010 and updated on July 20, 2010

hello , we have been told by my great grandmother Carrie Zedonia Turnbull , (now deceased) , that her father Frank Turnbull (b 1837 mississippi ) named his 1st born son after his estranged father George Turnbull , Frank (from what we have been told ) left home angry about “servitude” ( his words not ours) and went to tatemville , baldwin alabama .. but all my searching .. only verifies the naming of 1st born son George , Frank’s birth in 1837 mississippi , and census (1880) in tatemville alabama listing

: Frank TURNBULL Self M Male W 43 MS Timber Getter SC SC
Virginia TURNBULL Wife M Female W 38 AL Keeping House SC NC
Isabella TURNBULL Dau S Female W 18 AL Without Occu MS AL
George TURNBULL Son S Male W 16 AL Without Occu MS AL
Lizzie TURNBULL Dau S Female W 13 AL At Home MS AL
Adeline TURNBULL Dau S Female W 11 AL At Home MS AL
Carrie TURNBULL Dau S Female W 9 AL At Home MS AL
Jane TURNBULL Dau S Female W 7 AL At Home MS AL
Jerrold TURNBULL Son S Male W 5 AL At Home MS AL
Wesley TURNBULL Son S Male W 2 AL At Home MS AL
Alice TURNBULL Dau S Female W 1M AL At Home MS AL

any help would be appreciated

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 21, 2010

who did carrie marry? who were her children? she might have been married in the 1900 census.
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Tatemville, Baldwin, Alabama; Roll 1; Family History Film: 1254001; Page: 207B; Enumeration District: 8; Image: 0419.

Alabama State Census, 1820-1866
about Mr Frank Turnbull
Name: Mr Frank Turnbull
Race: White
County: Baldwin
Census Year: 1866

Alabama Marriage Collection, 1800-1969
about Olive V Litchfield
Name: Olive V Litchfield
Spouse: Francis Turnbull
Marriage Date: 9 Nov 1860
County: Baldwin
State: Alabama
Performed By Title: Judge of Probate
Performed by Name: C W Wilkins
Source information: Jordan Dodd, Liahona Research

Alabama Civil War Muster Rolls, 1861-1865
about Frank Turnbull
Name: Frank Turnbull
Military unit: 21st Alabama Infantry Regiment
Military Unit – Company: F
Rank: Private
Place of Enlistment – State: Alabama
Roll #: 230
Archive Collection #: SG025031-4

go to this citation and search for him and click on the unit to see where he mustered out.
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/

you might contact the MOWA tribe and the mississippi choctaw tribe too.

like you, i’m not seeing many choices in the 1850 census.
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: St Michael and St Phillip, Charleston, South Carolina; Roll M432_850; Page: 144B; Image: 129.

where did carrie go after the 1880 census? where were the other children in 1900.
also you can check when the county was formed.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather thann less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resourcce list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto