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Henry Alspa Carter

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posted on May 10, 2011

Looking for any info. on my great grandfather who is reported to be 1/2 Choctaw. Was married to Nancy Margaret Hensley Carter. Their daughter Ola Genevia Carter married my grandfather John Byrge and married him on 1/1/1923 in Campbell Co. TN. Would appreciate any help I can get, it is very important to our family for health reasons in our generations.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 10, 2011

if your family lived in TN, they might not have enrolled with a tribe. but you should look at the state archives and NARA/national archives and records administration, once you have more details. http://www.archives.gov for NARA. the morrow, GA might be a good office to call.

henry alspa? carter m. nancy margaret hensley
ola geneva carter m. john byrge 1/1/1923 campbell, TN

maybe this is your family?
Name: Henry Carter
Home in 1920: Civil District 3, Campbell, Tennessee
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s Name: Maggie Carter
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Carter 45
Maggie Carter 39
Manda Carter 18
Dutsy Carter 8
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Civil District 3, Campbell, Tennessee; Roll: T625_1730; Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 42; Image: 299.
Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002
about Maggie Hensley
Name: Maggie Hensley
Spouse: Henry Carter
Marriage Date: 27 Sep 1901
Marriage County: Campbell
Marriage State: Tennessee
this marriage was performed for a justice of the peace. a copy of the marriage license is on ancestry.com

this is a very common name.

1930 United States Federal Census
about John Byrge
Name: John Byrge
Home in 1930: District 3, Campbell, Tennessee
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Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Ola Byrge
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Byrge 65
Ola Byrge 22
Alonzo Byrge 6
Fonda Byrge 5
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: District 3, Campbell, Tennessee; Roll: 2235; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 13; Image: 530.0.
ola was married first at age 16. she was b. TN, father b. TN, mother b. KY
john is a farmer, rents the farm for $3/month. he is a sr. so he is father to a john jr.
there are two other bryge families on this page, probably sons of john.
Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002
about Ola Carter
Name: Ola Carter
Spouse: John Byrge Sr
Marriage Date: 16 Jan 1923
Marriage County: Campbell
Marriage State: Tennessee
rev. Byrd Burriss married them.

1920 United States Federal Census
about John Byrge
Name: John Byrge
Home in 1920: Civil District 3, Campbell, Tennessee
Age: 55
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s Name: Katie Byrge
Father’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Mother’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Byrge 55
Katie Byrge 56
Columbus Byrge 17
Della Byrge 15
Etta Hodge 10
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Civil District 3, Campbell, Tennessee; Roll: T625_1730; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 43; Image: 311.
this might be a second marriage for katie.
this is katy:
Birth: May 28, 1862
Death: Jun. 26, 1921

Burial:
Bullock Cemetery
Campbell County
Tennessee, USA
http://www.findagrave.com

this might be john, but i don’t see his wife’s grave. maybe she remarried.
Birth: May 22, 1863
Anderson County
Tennessee, USA
Death: Jan. 17, 1952
Campbell County
Tennessee, USA

Burial:
Round Rock Cemetery
Round Rock
Campbell County
Tennessee, USA

is this possible?
Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002
about Floyd Burress
Name: Floyd Burress
Spouse: Oleta Byrge
Marriage Date: 2 Mar 1950
Marriage County: Campbell
Marriage State: Tennessee
the difficulty with finding records for ola geneva carter is that she might be in census records under a nickname. i would suggest that you try to ger her death certificate and obituary. if you have difficulty with this, then try to get her social security application. anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 has a social security application on file. people often submitted a delayed birth certificate to show proof of age.

so this is what i would do.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto