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Sarah Elmira Rogers (1838-1935)

BryanReddick BryanReddick

posted on July 19, 2010

Hello, everyone. I wonder if any of you can help me. My great-grandmother, Sarah Elmira Rogers (Bryan), in 1929 was awarded $5 from The Mississippi Choctaw Investment Company, run for the Miss. Choctaw. Her grandfather was said to have been a Native American named Taulbee (or something like that. His daughter Elizabeth or Mary Elizabeth (Rogers) was living in Missippi in 1805, but Taulbee’s history is unknown.

Can anyone provide any information? Would it be reasonable to infer that Taulbee was Choctaw? Would there be any records that could be consulted?

Thank you.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 19, 2010

you might be looking for the mississippi choctaw tribe.
http://www.choctaw.org/
you might have difficulty is trying to find records for taulbee, since 1) the war department was responsible for keeping records in most of the 1800’s and 2) choctaw wasn’t a written language until the middle of the 1800’s.
i don’t know if this has anything to do with your inquiry:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/mississippi_choctaw_investment_company.htm
some general choctaw links:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/nations/choctaw_research.htm

it sounds as if you don’t have a lot of documentation about sarah elmira rogers b. 1838 d. 1835 m. ? bryan or her mother mary elizabeth ? m. ? rogers or her grandfather? how have you traced these names so far?

the lineage you state leaves a lot of questions, such as spouses, locations, other children, dates. these are common names and i will do the best i can here. it occurs to me that in order to go back that far with names, you must have some idea of dates and locations.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Sarah E Bryan
Name: Sarah E Bryan
Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 7, Hamilton, Texas
Age: 62
Birth Date: Feb 1838
Birthplace: Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother: number of living children: 3
Mother: How many children: 3
Spouse’s name: Fortunat*S
Marriage Year: 1854
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 46
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Fortunat*S Bryan 67
Sarah E Bryan 62
Sarah E Bryan 33
Mary M Bryan 31
Jarrett F Bryan 27
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 7, Hamilton, Texas; Roll T623_1641; Page: 7A; Enumeration District: 87.
maybe these people are related.

there are a lot of matches for these names. i hesitate to guess any more about this because i just don’t have enough information.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather thann less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resourcce list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Shane Michael Cook Shane Michael Cook

posted on November 25, 2011

The Taulbee (or Tolby) name starts becoming associated with Native Americans in the early 1600s in the Delaware/Rhode Island areas. I think a lot of us need to truly learn our Native history so we can get to the bottom of this. :)

My main line of Taulbees goes from the North East to Virginia/South Carolina to Kentucky. From there I see them go to Indiana, Texas, Missouri, and Oklahoma.

This is the movement pattern from 1600 to the early 1900s. It seems to perfectly mirror the times that treaties were broken.

The other families in this line: Rose, Sizemore, Allen, Canady (Kennedy), Birchfield…