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Faye Bernice Tinkey

Melanie Melanie

posted on April 15, 2011

This woman was my great grandmother, (Faye Bernice Tinkey) I know that Tinkey was her married name, I have not found her maiden name as of yet, she was half Choctaw. If anybody has ANY info on this woman, I would be ever so grateful. Thanks for your time..

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on April 15, 2011

no dates, no location, no children, no spouse in your post.

maybe you should try to get her obituary. see your local public library for that. the interlibrary loan program can access historical newspapers.

is this your relative?
1920 United States Federal Census
about Faye B Tinkey
Name: Faye B Tinkey
Home in 1920: Walkerton, St Joseph, Indiana
Age: 17
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Indiana
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Charles S Tinkey
Father’s Birth Place: Indiana
Mother’s Birth Place: Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles S Tinkey 20
Faye B Tinkey 17
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Walkerton, St Joseph, Indiana; Roll: T625_463; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 195; Image: 28.

if it is, she was b. IN.
other than that, i am not finding many records. there are no tinkeys on the dawes roll.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Matt Slough Matt Slough

posted on May 5 and updated on May 5

That’s a lot of good info there, I wish I had something to go on.

Melanie, I don’t know if you’ll see my reply as this post is 3yrs old but I found this page while doing some research. I was wondering if Suzanne’s information helped you out at all?

My connection between your post and hers is the fact that my dad was born in 1949 to an underage mother and was at some point given up or taken away and was later adopted. All my information is very vague and hear-say due to the fact that he was adopted but here is what I know: His biological mother was from Walkerton, IN. They family’s name was Tinkey. I was told she was part Native American. He had seen pictures of her later on and she had darker skin and straight dark hair.

I was always told he thought she was descendant of Cherokee though but we have no real facts to base that on. Some time later on she had made contact with my dad and had moved out to California, probably in the late sixties. From what I understand she passed on from cancer in the early 1990s I believe.

What I found in my research is the above noted Faye B Tinkey had a few daughters, one of which was 15 in 1949. I can’t help but wonder if that is her. My brother, sister and I have always wondered what our lineage is and would find it fascinating to know more but without full names and dates it’s been impossible.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 6 and updated on May 6

you might try an obituary for faye b. tinkey. see your local public library/interlibrary loan program for that. this might give you some useful information regarding names, locations.
from there, you might be able to find a relative from whitepages.com or another internet phonebook website.

from findagrave.com

Faye B. Tinkey
Birth: 1902
Death: 1948

Inscription:
Wife of C.L. Tinkey

Burial:
Woodlawn Cemetery
Walkerton
St. Joseph County
Indiana, USA
Plot: Row 10 – North Woodlawn

Created by: Julie Degenhardt
Record added: Jan 25, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 13123669

you can get a copy of her social security application with an SS-5 form. maybe her death certificate. you can contact the cemetery and see if there is any more information.

findagrave.com charles lee tinkey
Birth: Jun. 15, 1899
Death: 1961

Inscription:
Husband of Faye B. Tinkey

Burial:
Woodlawn Cemetery
Walkerton
St. Joseph County
Indiana, USA
Plot: Row 10 – North Woodlawn

Created by: Julie Degenhardt
Record added: Jan 25, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 13123329

1940 United States Federal Census about Faye Tinkey
Name: Faye Tinkey
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1902
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Home in 1940: Walkerton, St Joseph, Indiana
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Tyler
Inferred Residence in 1935: Walkerton, St Joseph, Indiana
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 1B
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: Elementary school, 7th grade
Weeks Worked in 1939: 0
Income: 0
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Chas Tinkey 40
Faye Tinkey 38
Pauline Tinkey 17
Regina Tinkey 15
Willadean Tinkey 12
Joyce Tinkey 11
Dennis Tinkey 9
Carol Tinkey 6
Gail Tinkey 3
Larry Tinkey 11/12
Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: Walkerton, St Joseph, Indiana; Roll: T627_1092; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 71-12.

this may be faye’s maiden name:
1910 United States Federal Census about Fay Spade
Name: Fay Spade
Age in 1910: 8
Birth Year: abt 1902
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1910: Polk, Marshall, Indiana
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Dell Spade
Father’s Birthplace: Ohio
Mother’s name: Rosetta Spade
Mother’s Birthplace: Indiana
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Dell Spade 41
40
Rosetta Spade 44
Claude Spade 14
Alva Spade 10
Fay Spade 8
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Polk, Marshall, Indiana; Roll: T624_370; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0110; FHL microfilm: 1374383.

Missouri Marriage Records, 1805-2002 about Debert Spade
Name: Debert Spade
Marriage Date: 20 Mar 1886
Marriage Location: Buffulo, Dallas, Missouri
Marriage County: Dallas
Spouse Name: Rosetter Brown

1900 United States Federal Census about Claud L Spade
Name: Claud L Spade
[Claud S Shade]
Age: 5
Birth Date: Jun 1895
Birthplace: Indiana
Home in 1900: Jackson, Dallas, Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father’s Name: Joseph D Spade
Father’s Birthplace: Ohio
Mother’s name: Rosetta Spade
Mother’s Birthplace: Indiana
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph D Spade 33
Rosetta Spade 35
Maud B Spade 15
Ora E Spade 13
Edna Spade 4
Claud L Spade 5
Alvy C Spade 6/12
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Jackson, Dallas, Missouri; Roll: 851; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 0027; FHL microfilm: 1240851.

i don’t know if this helps.
location is a major factor in tribal affiliation and tribes are federally recognized or state recognized or not recognized.
you can contact the state adoption coordinator and ask about post-adoption services. you should cite that you want heritage information.

however, i don’t see a connection to the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. there are many tribes.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw-indian-research.htm

many natives did not apply for enrollment with a tribe because they were philosophically opposed or could not submit required information for enrollment. many natives that lived off-reservation had difficulty with evidence.

the choctaw tribe reservation was in MS and AL. there are choctaw tribes in MS, CA, OK, LA and possibly other states.
http://www.native-languages.org/indiana.htm
many shawnee were enrolled in the cherokee tribe.

http://500nations.com/Indiana_Tribes.asp

http://500nations.com/Missouri_Tribes.asp
http://www.aihsc.info/Tribes.htm

some choctaw could have moved through missouri, but your family didn’t seem to be on the trail of tears in the late 1830s. you would have to see the census records for your family in the 1800s.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto

Matt Slough Matt Slough

posted on May 6

Thank you Suzanne

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 6

the obituary for charles lee tinkey might give you a married name for the daughters and would be excellent to show some changes in the time between deaths.
his death certificate might also be helpful to see the name of the informant, funeral home.

suzanne hamlet shatto