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Jacqueline Collins Jacqueline Collins

posted on March 28, 2011

My great grandmother was 100%Choctaw Indian; her name was Seleta Mattox. She was born abt 1860 and married my grandfather John William Cannon in Okalahoma. She had two sons John William and Egbert and died from complications of the birth of a third child who also passed. She is buried in Memphis TN. I have her plot number, etc. I would like to know more about her family and I would like to know how to go about finding their marriage license from Oklahoma. Can anyone help me? The marriage would have taken place prior to 1887.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 28, 2011

a reverse migration is very rare, from west to east.

seleta mattox b. 1860 place unknown m. john william cannon
john william cannon b. ? place unknown
egbert cannon b. ? place unknown

oklahoma became a state in 1907. most of the records in indian territory (IT), as oklahoma was known at that time, were kept by the war department at different forts. there were churches and district courts in the territory.

oklahoma historical society might be able to guide you for a particular record.
http://www.okhistory.org/

All 1900 United States Federal Census Results

1900 United States Federal Census
about Egbert Cannon
Name: Egbert Cannon
Home in 1900: Civil District 6, Shelby, Tennessee
[Raleigh, Shelby, Tennessee]
Age: 10
Birth Date: Oct 1889
Birthplace: Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Name: John W Cannon
Father’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother’s Name: Samuella Cannon
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Cannon 42
Samuella Cannon 29
John W Cannon 13
Egbert Cannon 10
1900 United States Federal Census
about Samuella Cannon
Name: Samuella Cannon
[Samuella J Cannon]
Home in 1900: Civil District 6, Shelby, Tennessee
[Raleigh, Shelby, Tennessee]
Age: 29
Birth Date: May 1871
Birthplace: Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother: number of living children: 0
Mother: How many children: 2
Spouse’s Name: John W Cannon
Marriage Year: 1896
1900 United States Federal Census
about John W Cannon
Name: John W Cannon
Home in 1900: Civil District 6, Shelby, Tennessee
[Raleigh, Shelby, Tennessee]
Age: 42
Birth Date: Jul 1857
Birthplace: Mississippi
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father’s Birthplace: Mississippi
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Civil District 6, Shelby, Tennessee; Roll: T623_1596; Page: 13B; Enumeration District: 34.

john is a farmer.

1870 United States Federal Census
about John W Cannon
Name: John W Cannon
Birth Year: abt 1857
Age in 1870: 13
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1870: Holly Springs Ward 3, Marshall, Mississippi
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Lydia N Cannon 35
Susan N Cannon 14
John W Cannon 13
Garrett C Cannon 11
Bettie Cannon 8
Anna L Cannon 6
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Holly Springs Ward 3, Marshall, Mississippi; Roll: M593_740; Page: 343A; Image: 42; Family History Library Film: 552239.

maybe you are looking for a mississippi marriage record?

1860 United States Federal Census
about Jno W Cannon
Name: Jno W Cannon
Age in 1860: 3
Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1860: Marshall, Mississippi
Gender: Male
Post Office: Chulahoma
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
D J Cannon 26
S N Cannon 24
Susan N Cannon 5
Jno W Cannon 3
Garrett C Cannon 1
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: , Marshall, Mississippi; Roll: M653_587; Page: 43; Image: 47; Family History Library Film: 803587.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Egbert Cannon
Name: Egbert Cannon
Age in 1910: 19
Estimated Birth Year: 1891
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: John W Cannon
Father’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother’s Name: Samuela J Cannon
Mother’s Birth Place: Tennessee
Home in 1910: Civil District 6, Shelby, Tennessee
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John W Cannon 53
Samuela J Cannon 37
John W Cannon Jr 22
Egbert Cannon 19
Liddie J Cannon 9
Alphonsa O Cannon 4
Joe G Cannon 2
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Civil District 6, Shelby, Tennessee; Roll: T624_1518; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 0062; Image: 768; FHL Number: 1375531.

1910 United States Federal Census
about John W Cannon Jr
Name: John W Cannon Jr
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s Name: John W Cannon
Father’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother’s Name: Samuela J Cannon
Mother’s Birth Place: Tennessee

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about John Willie Cannon Jr.
Name: John Willie Cannon Jr.
County: Shelby
State: Tennessee
Birthplace: Tennessee;United States of America
Birth Date: 31 Aug 1887
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1877691
DraftBoard: 1

he said he was born in memphis, TN.
he is employed by his father as a farm laborer.
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Egbert Carroll Cannon
Name: Egbert Carroll Cannon
County: Shelby
State: Tennessee
Birthplace: Tennessee;United States of America
Birth Date: 14 Oct 1887
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1877691
DraftBoard: 1
egbert is also a farm laborer working for his father. was also born in memphis, TN. he has a physical disability of some kind.

Family Members
Parents

* * William J. Cannon * * Lydia Narcissus Ward 1835 – 1918

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Spouse & Children

* * Celita Maddox

so you have a name difference also.

when i look for records, i look for the death records first (cemetery, obituary, death record) and then work backward to marriage record, birth of children, then the birth record.

Birth: Jul. 26, 1857
Mississippi, USA
Death: Nov. 11, 1930, USA

Born in Wall Hill, Mississippi. Married to Seleta Mattox Cannon.They lived in Fort Smith, Arkansas until her death November 7, 1890. Children John W. Cannon (1987-1946) and Egbert C. Cannon (YOD 1958). John W. Cannon was a farmer. He died of general arteriosclerosis. Coronary sclerosis. Myocardial insufficiency.

Burial:
Egypt Baptist Church
Woods
Cannon County
Tennessee, USA
Plot: Unknown

Created by: Pam Woods
Record added: Jul 09, 2006
Find A Grave Memorial# 14866134
http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=14866134

1920 United States Federal Census
about J W Cannon
Name: J W Cannon
[J W Connor]
Home in 1920: Civil District 9, Shelby, Tennessee
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Mississippi
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse’s Name: Sallie Cannon
Father’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
J W Cannon 63
Sallie Cannon 49
Willie Cannon 34
Edgar Cannon 32
Egbert Cannon 15
Conway Cannon 13
Joe Cannon 11
Wesely Cannon 9
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Civil District 9, Shelby, Tennessee; Roll: T625_1766; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 239; Image: 400.

Birth: 1857, USA
Death: Nov. 7, 1890, USA

Mother to John W Cannon born 08/31/1887 and Egbert C Cannon Died 1958. You died at such a young age (30). You were brought by train from Fort Smith,Arkansas and buried here in Memphis at this cemetery. Chapel Hill #2 plot 1640. J.T. Hinton Mortuary served the family. This same funeral home took care of an infant child on 08/28/1890. I wish I knew more about you. A company by the name of D. Canale and Company paid for all funeral charges. Seleta’s husband John worked for that company.

Burial:
Elmwood Cemetery
Memphis
Shelby County
Tennessee, USA
Plot: 1640 Chapel Hill #2

Created by: Pam Woods
Record added: Jan 26, 2005
Find A Grave Memorial# 10380563

Egbert’s death certificate can be viewed and saved as a PDF from the following site:http://register.shelby.tn.us/index.php Shelby County Tennessee Register of Deeds His date of death is given as 13 Aug 1956Date of Birth: 14 OCT 1888 Best, Carol
- Carol Zick

maybe john cannon is on the 1885 native census?

have you looked up the social security application for either of the sons? they would have had to submit a birth record or delayed birth certificate to show proof of age 1/1/1937.

i don’t think there is a cannon county, so that church might be in shelby county, TN.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Jacqueline Collins Jacqueline Collins

posted on April 4, 2011

Suzanne! You are amazing! I have discovered a couple of new leads based on your reply.I found record of SG Maddox marrying my grandfather John William Cannon in Fort Smith Arkansas. But, I have yet to discover who her parents were and where she came from and the circumstances of their meeting. Why did you say there might be a name change to Celita Maddox? She did die the year before the Dawes list was created. Will she always be the mystery woman? Any list or help you can provide will absolutely thrill the entire Cannon family!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on April 4, 2011

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906.

i don’t know whether any of your relatives changed their names. illiteracy was rampant.

try historical newspapers around indian territory and tennessee.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Bobbie Whittaker Bobbie Whittaker

posted on August 19, 2011

Suzanne, my name is Bobbie Whittaker, and Lydia Narcissus Ward is my GGGrandmother. All my life, I have heard that she was 1/2 Cherokee, and 1/2 English, but have never found anything on the Cherokee Rolls. When I found you posting, it made me wonder if she was Choctaw instead. Her mother was Tabitha Elizabeth Lehew (Lehu, Leher), married to Alfred Ward. I would greatly appreciate any information you could provide me with. I have what is left of the doll that it is reported was carried by her during the Trail of Tears. She was born in 1835/1836,, but, some census records show her born in 1831. She could have been anywhere from 6-2 years old, on the Trail, which would make her the right age to be carrying a doll. I thank you in advance for any information you are able to find. Sincerely, Bobbie Whittaker

Bobbie Whittaker Bobbie Whittaker

posted on August 19, 2011

Suzanne, my name is Bobbie Whittaker, and Lydia Narcissus Ward is my GGGrandmother. All my life, I have heard that she was 1/2 Cherokee, and 1/2 English, but have never found anything on the Cherokee Rolls. When I found you posting, it made me wonder if she was Choctaw instead. Her mother was Tabitha Elizabeth Lehew (Lehu, Leher), married to Alfred Ward. I would greatly appreciate any information you could provide me with. I have what is left of the doll that it is reported was carried by her during the Trail of Tears. She was born in 1835/1836,, but, some census records show her born in 1831. She could have been anywhere from 6-2 years old, on the Trail, which would make her the right age to be carrying a doll. I thank you in advance for any information you are able to find. Sincerely, Bobbie Whittaker

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on August 20, 2011

there are several family trees with lydia ward in them. check ancestry.com. your local public library probably has a subscription to that database. also look at rootsweb.com worldconnect records. rootsweb and genealogy.com have messageboards for tribes, locations, surnames. rootsweb also has webprojects for location, tribes, surnames also.

Lydia Narcissus Ward
BIRTH: 1835 – Kentucky
DEATH: 23 Jan 1918 – Holly Springs, Marshall County (Marshall), Mississippi
MARRIAGE: 17 Apr 1851 – Mississippi
SPOUSE: Joseph T. Boone

Lydia Narcissus Ward
BIRTH: 1835 – Kentucky, USA
DEATH: 23 Jan 1917 – Holly Springs, Mississippi, USA
SPOUSE: William J Cannon

i do not see her on the dawes roll.
this is not surprising. i’m not sure if she passed away in 1890 or later. you can see there is mixed information. i think historical newspapers, visit to a cemetery might help.

the trail of tears occurred in the late 1830’s from MS to OK/Indian territory. AR was a territory then.

i suggested that someone get some particular documents.

the MS census location might suggest a tribe.
http://www.native-languages.org/mississippi.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/mississippi/index.htm
http://wikitravel.org/en/Holly_Springs#b
Holly Springs is defined by a rich and varied history. Events through the centuries have left an indelible imprint on the face of this town. In the early days, at a place known only to a brave and civilized tribe of Chickasaw Indians, natural springs flowed through hills of holly trees. It became a gathering place for traders and explorers. They called it Holly Springs. Treaties with the government sent the Chickasaws away from their land on the trail of tears to reservations in Oklahoma. There’s not much left to indicate their presence except honorary names of streets like Chulahoma or names of houses like Latoka or Tallalossa.

http://marshallcountyms.org/locales/mchist.php

when you get stumped, look at the records for the children. the childrens’ records fix the family to a location and date.

you can also try this:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/cherokee/

natives disclosed their heritage when they enrolled, generally. if they didn’t enroll, sometimes the heritage was lost.

you might be able to find a land record given to her father, in lieu of tribal enrollment. but i don’t see one.

your sources would be state archives, state genealogical society, state historical society. try old records, obituaries, trading logs, old newspapers.

NARA/national archives and records administration are where the war department records are located, 1800-1900 or so, but you will find those records fairly inadequate. you might get lucky, though.
http://www.archives.gov
try the morrow, GA office and the fort worth, TX office.

gl.

Bobbie Whittaker Bobbie Whittaker

posted on August 24, 2011

Thanks for the additional information. I will do some researching in that. Hope to find something.

Lori Merrill Lori Merrill

posted on November 18, 2011

My great great grand mother Hettie Irene Mattox
born. Nov 19 1891 Lone Grove , Oklahoma
d. Apr 05 1962
married. Adamson, Daniel W d. Sep 12 1956
Was also Choctaw Indian. I have yet to find what tribe or any parents.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 18, 2011

lori, you should start a different thread so that others can see who you are trying to find.

i don’t see her on the dawes roll under her maiden name. there were 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five largest tribes are on the dawes roll. you should look at the location to find out if there were any tribes nearby. then check with that tribe. you must be directly related to an original enrollee of the tribe, if they have already enrolled members.

you might contact the chickasaw tribe, links in this post.
also try the caddo tribe.
http://www.ok.gov/oiac/Tribal_Nations/

Name: Hettie Adamson
Home in 1930: Okemah, Okfuskee, Oklahoma
View Map
Age: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Down W Adamson
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Down W Adamson 60
Hettie Adamson 39
Calvin J Adamson 10
Elmer C Adamson 5
Carl Adamson 3
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Okemah, Okfuskee, Oklahoma; Roll: 1917; Page: 7B; Enumeration District: 12; Image: 262.0.

hettie was b. OK, was 17 when she got married.

Name: Hettie Adamson
Home in 1920: Lone Grove, Carter, Oklahoma
Age: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1891
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: D W Adamson
Father’s Birth Place: Missouri
Mother’s Birth Place: Texas
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
D W Adamson 50
Hettie Adamson 29
Clyde Adamson 11
Viola Adamson 6
Joseph Adamson 2
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Lone Grove, Carter, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1455; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 56; Image: 439.

i couldn’t find her under the maiden name you give.
but another family tree says her maiden name was sissney.

Hettie Sissney
Birth 19 Nov 1889 in Lone Grove, Carter, Oklahoma
Death 5 Apr. 1962 in Norman, Cleveland, Oklahoma, USA

Name: Hettie Mcdaniel
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Adamson Mcdaniel
Home in 1910: Lone Grove, Carter, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Adamson Mcdaniel 38
Hettie Mcdaniel 22
Clyde Mcdaniel 1
William Hendman 73
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Lone Grove, Carter, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1246; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 0052; Image: 1101; FHL Number: 1375259.

Daniel (Carl Roy) Adamson (Moore)
Birth: 9 Jan 1927 – Okemah, Okfuskee, Oklahoma
Death: 1 June 1988 (1 Jun 1988) – Stillwater, Payne, Oklahoma, USADaniel (Carl Roy) Adamson (Moore)
Birth: 9 Jan 1927 – Okemah, Okfuskee, Oklahoma
Death: 1 June 1988 (1 Jun 1988) – Stillwater, Payne, Oklahoma, USA

and someone else says this was her name:
Name: Hettie Bell Roach
Date of Birth: abt 1888
Age: 10
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of Household: Daughter
Mother’s Name: Bridget A Barter
Tribe: Osage
Agency: Osage
State: Oklahoma
Last Census Number: 929
Census Date: 30 Jun 1898
U.S., Indian Census Rolls, 1885-1940 about Hettie Bell Roach

now, i don’t know. but i would say that you have to start at the death and work backward in time.
you might find a cemetery record on findagrave or interment.com.
you should get her death certificate from the state vital records office. this might give you clues, such as parents, locations and dates.
you should try to get her obituary. see your local public library about the interlibrary loan program.
and if you get stuck, you can get a copy of her social security application. anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 has a social security application on file. they had to submit a birth record to show proof of age. often this was a delayed birth certificate. you get a copy of the delayed birth certificate from the state vital records office or the state archives.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto