Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

The Great Seal of the Choctaw Nation
RSS

Anna Kreist

Susan parker Susan parker

posted on March 27, 2011

I married into the Parker family which has Choctaw lineage. My husband’s Great-Grandmother was apparently 100% Choctaw. The only history I have is that her name was Anna Kreist, which I am sure is not her real name, born around 1854, and she married William L Parker in PA. There are also stories that she traveled by foot cross country from Roundup Montana? A reservation there? Any help would or information would be great. Thanks so much.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 28, 2011

the choctaw was a southeastern tribe. very few went north. a reverse migration from west to east is very rare also.

the best thing you can do is start to collect documents. documents of the children point to the parents and fix the family to a location and date. what do the social security applications and birth records say about the children when they applied for social security in 1/1/1937? if they didn’t have a birth certificate, they would have submitted a delayed birth certificate as proof of age. when you ask for the birth certificate, also mention that a delayed birth certificate might have been filed.

why do you think that anna kreist was not her real name?

i would advise you to find her children in the census records, collect documents on them (birth/death/marriage/cemetery) and you might have more information on the parents. i usually start with the death first and work backward in time.

this post gives no information on the marriage, no information william or anna’s death, no information on the children, no location information. and parker is a common surname. so it is difficult for me to help you.

i found this family tree on ancestry.com. if you don’t have a subscription to ancestry, visit your local public library. they probably have a subscription.

Anna Maria Kreis

Birth 8 Aug 1857 in Clairfield, Pennsylvania
Death 25 Feb 1940 in Reading, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States
Timeline
( View details )

* 1857 8 Aug * Birth Clairfield, Pennsylvania * 11 source citations Hide source citations o + + 1860 United States Federal Census o + + 1870 United States Federal Census o + + 1900 United States Federal Census o + + 1900 United States Federal Census o + + 1900 United States Federal Census o + + 1900 United States Federal Census o + + 1910 United States Federal Census o + + 1910 United States Federal Census o + + 1910 United States Federal Census o + + 1910 United States Federal Census o + + 1920 United States Federal Census * 1860 Age: 3 * Residence Jay, Elk, Pennsylvania, United States * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1860 United States Federal Census * 1870 Age: 13 * Residence Jay, Elk, Pennsylvania, United States * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1870 United States Federal Census * 1882 28 Oct Age: 25 * Marriage to William J Parker Pennsylvania, United States * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1900 United States Federal Census * 1900 Age: 43 * Residence Sugarcreek, Venango, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1900 United States Federal Census * 1900 Age: 43 * Residence Huston Township (East Part), Clearfield, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1900 United States Federal Census * 1900 Age: 43 * Residence Allegheny City, Allegheny, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1900 United States Federal Census * 1900 Age: 43 * Residence Allegheny City, Allegheny, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1900 United States Federal Census * 1910 Age: 53 * Residence Sugarcreek, Venango, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1910 United States Federal Census * 1910 Age: 53 * Residence Cherry, Butler, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1910 United States Federal Census * 1910 Age: 53 * Residence Bogota, Bergen, New Jersey * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1910 United States Federal Census * 1910 Age: 53 * Residence Bogota, Bergen, New Jersey * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1910 United States Federal Census * 1910 Age: 53 * Residence Cleveland Ward 10, Cuyahoga, Ohio * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1910 United States Federal Census * 1920 Age: 63 * Residence Sugarcreek, Venango, Pennsylvania * 1 source citation Hide source citations o + + 1920 United States Federal Census * 1940 25 Feb Age: 82 * Death Reading, Berks, Pennsylvania, United States

Parents

* * Daniel Kreis 1816 – 1899 * * Sarah Ann Arner Orner 1824 – 1907

Kreis is originated in Switzerland (later moving to Germany) and it’s meaning is “maker of earthenware utensils, potter.”

because the middle initial on your post doesn’t match the middle initial of this tree, i am not sure whether this is your relative. but i have nothing to indicate that this really isn’t your family either, since your post doesn’t give much information.

if you can’t find information for your relative, often this means you should look at the documentation for the children again, or collect more information on the children.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Susan parker Susan parker

posted on March 29, 2011

WOW Suzanne! Thanks for all of the tips! My Father-In-Law is one of 10 children. The history of his Grandmother was passed down from his older siblings. Unfortunately, most of them are already dead.His memory is failing and he has no documents, only the stories. He claims that ‘Quana Parker’ might have been his Grandmother. I looked up the name on line and get a male Indian Chief. It’s very difficult b/c he also believes that her name was changed by Christians who took her in. I have found family documents/history of Anna’s marriage, children and death. But haven’t been able to go back further. I believe he has pictures of her with traditional Indian dress. Would someone be able to tell if her dress is Choctaw and from what region? I’ll be heading to the library next. You are so awesome!

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 29, 2011

this would be doubtful that she is choctaw.
and unless someone enrolled in a tribe and disclosed their heritage, it is difficult to find a tribal connection.

you should look at the areas where she came from.
try collecting documents about her children and then her.

the native connection might be further back, i don’t know.