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Renee Renee

posted on March 15, 2011

Hello: I recently discovered I have Choctaw lineage and am interested in discovering more. While I do not know the name of my Choctaw ancestor, I do know who she married and her daughter’s name. Also, who her daughter married, and who her grandson married, though I do not have dates. Because the relative who related the lineage was born in the late 1870’s, and is the 4th generation after my Native ancestor, I am assuming dates circa 1800 (possibly before). My Choctaw ancestor married Sir Andrew Box, an Englishman; their daughter, Rebecca Box, married Andrew Jones; their son, Willis Jones married Polly Butler. If anyone has information regarding dates, locations, marriage/birth/death certificates, this knowledge would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your assistance in my quest for my ancestry. Renee

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 15, 2011

sir andrew box m. ? choctaw female
rebecca box m. andrew jones
willis jones m. polly butler

what documentation do you have? census? enrollment documents? birth or death certificates? your family tree should have some documents. if you found this online, have you written to the people who had the family tree? are there any obituaries? you can ask your public library for access to newspapers and obituaries through the interlibrary loan program.

i often found that it is easier to pursue the line from the death on back to the marriage and birth of children, then the birth of the parents. childrens’ documentation point to the parents, fix a family to a location and date.

so i will start with the willis jones and polly butler generation first and see how far we get.

looking at the family trees on ancestry:
Willis Jones

Birth about 1810 in Smithland, Livingston, Kentucky, USA
Death 30 Apr 1865 in Little Rock, Pulaski, Arkansas, USA

Mary Butler

Birth 1818 in , , South Carolina, USA
Death 4 Oct 1904 in Daisy, Pike, Arkansas, USA
married 3/31/1837 MS
her parents were john and betsy (nee ?) butler
polly might have been a nickname.

Spouse & Children

Mary Butler (1818-1904)

William Jones (1838-1843) b. pontotoc, MS

Nancy E Jones (1840-1901) b. pontotoc, MS

John Jones (1841-1842) b. pontotoc, MS

Amanda Jones (1842-1933) b. pontotoc, MS

William Howard Jones (1845-1896) b. pontotoc, MS

John T B Jones (1846-) b. pontotoc, MS

Andrew Jolly Jones (1848-1909) b. pontotoc, MS

James Lee Jones (1853-) b. pontotoc, MS

Mary A Jones (1857-1944) b. pontotoc, MS

Ada Jones (1858-1871) b. pontotoc, MS

Thomas Jones (1860-1872) b. pike, AR

Victoria Jones (1862-1864) b. pike, AR

if this is true, then this describes the migration from the southeastern area to AR. it is a late migration, well after the trail of tears. so the government would have called them mississippi choctaw.
then you check for a land grant to willis jones or polly/mary jones and match to the location where they lived.

Parents & Siblings

William Andrew Jones (1780-1840)
B:

  • 1780
  • Charleston, Laurens, South Carolina, USA

D:

  • 9 Jul 1840
  • , Pontotoc, Mississippi, USA

Rebecca Box (1782-1860)
B:

  • 1782
  • , Laurens, South Carolina, USA

D:

  • Sep 1860
  • Star West, Pike, Arkansas, USA
* * Annis Jones (1805-1860) B:
  • 1805
  • , Union, South Carolina, USA

D:

  • Jul 1860
  • , Pontotoc, Mississippi, USA
* * John A Jones (1806-1850) B:
  • 1806
  • Smithland, Livingston, Kentucky, USA

D:

  • 29 Jan 1850
  • Benton, Saline, Arkansas, USA
* * Robert Jones (1808-1860) B:
  • May 1808
  • , Laurens, South Carolina, USA

D:

  • 1 May 1860
  • Point Cedar Creek, Clark, Arkansas, USA
* * Elijah Jones (1810-) B:
  • 1810
  • , Hardeman, Tennessee, USA
* * Catherine Jones (1813-1852) B:
  • 1813
  • , , Alabama, USA

D:

  • Jan 1852
* * Sallie Jones (1814-) B:
  • 1814
  • , Hardeman, Tennessee, USA
* * Rebecca Jones (1819-1860) B:
  • 1819
  • , Laurens, South Carolina, USA

D:

  • 1860
  • , , South Carolina, USA
* * Andrew Jolly Jones (1823-1882) B:
  • 8 Dec 1823
  • , Hardeman, Tennessee, USA

D:

  • 1 Apr 1882
  • Amity, Clark, Arkansas, USA
* * Elizabeth Jones (1825-)

B:

  • 1 Jan 1825
  • , Hardeman, Tennessee, USA

are you getting the idea? we need to know this stuff in order to find documents that we expect.
there’s native census records, federal census records and land records. the census 1850 and later have individual family members, but 1790-1840 list only the head of household with a count of # of people in the family. if the family was living on the reservation, they would not have been listed on the federal census but would probably be on native census records. there’s also wills, military service, birth/death/marriage records.

another family tree lists these as rebecca’s parents, but i don’t know if they have any documents for this:
*

Edward Allen Box 1754 – 1857

Birth 1754 in Laurens, Laurens, South Carolina, United States
Death 17 May 1857 in Decatur, Tennessee, United States
*

* Elizabeth Newton 1758 – 1840

Birth 1758 in Laurens, Laurens, S. C.
Death 1840 in Perry, Tennessee

this differs from what you posted. i noticed light documentary evidence on these family trees, so someone will have to find out from documents.

so we expect to find willis jones and mary/polly butler in pontotoc, MS 1837-1858, and they might be in pike county, AR in 1860.

there was a willis jones who lived in pontotoc county, MS who received a land grant:
Mississippi Land Records
about Willis Jones
Name: Willis Jones
Land Office: PONTOTOC
Document Number: 6691
Total Acres: 159.48
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 4 May 1839
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Land Description:
1 NW CHICKASAW No 7S 1E 2
Source Information:
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Pre-1908 Patents: Homesteads, Cash Entry, Choctaw Indian Scrip and Chickasaw Cession Lands. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1997.

Mississippi Land Records
about Willis Jones
Name: Willis Jones
Land Office: PONTOTOC
Document Number: 1063
Total Acres: 159.89
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 9 Apr 1842
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Land Description:
1 SW CHICKASAW No 7S 1E 7
Source Information:
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Pre-1908 Patents: Homesteads, Cash Entry, Choctaw Indian Scrip and Chickasaw Cession Lands. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1997.

so now you have to get the land documents, match the legal description with the location of the census, get the land documents from the county when they sold the land.

Mississippi Land Records
about Mary Jones
Name: Mary Jones
Land Office: PONTOTOC
Document Number: 19243
Total Acres: 160.44
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 9 Oct 1845
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Land Description:
1 SW CHOCTAW No 24N 7E 4
Source Information:
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Pre-1908 Patents: Homesteads, Cash Entry, Choctaw Indian Scrip and Chickasaw Cession Lands. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1997.

1850 United States Federal Census
about Amanda Jones
Name: Amanda Jones
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1842
Birth Place: Mississippi
Gender: Female
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Pontotoc, Mississippi
Family Number: 1666
Household Members:
Name Age
Willis Jones 38
Mary Jones 34
Nancy Jones 10
Amanda Jones 8
William Jones 5
John Jones 3
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Pontotoc, Mississippi; Roll: M432_380; Page: 180A and 180B; Image: 367.

willis is a farmer, b. KY, has $1,000 real estate
mary was b. SC

1850 United States Federal Census
about Rebecca Jones
Name: Rebecca Jones
Age: 68
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1782
Birth Place: South Carolina
Gender: Female
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Pontotoc, Mississippi
Family Number: 1665
Household Members:
Name Age
Rebecca Jones 68
Elizabeth Jones 22
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: , Pontotoc, Mississippi; Roll: M432_380; Page: 180A; Image: 366.

Mississippi Land Records
about Willie A Jones
Name: Willie A Jones
Land Office: PONTOTOC
Document Number: 20543
Total Acres: 159.94
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 17 May 1847
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Land Description:
1 SW CHICKASAW No 4S 1E 16
Source Information:
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Pre-1908 Patents: Homesteads, Cash Entry, Choctaw Indian Scrip and Chickasaw Cession Lands. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1997.
Mississippi Land Records
about Willie A Jones
Name: Willie A Jones
Land Office: PONTOTOC
Document Number: 20544
Total Acres: 160
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 17 May 1847
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Land Description:
1 SW CHICKASAW No 5S 1E 16
Source Information:
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Mississippi Pre-1908 Patents: Homesteads, Cash Entry, Choctaw Indian Scrip and Chickasaw Cession Lands. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1997.

there may be others too. this is a common name. but the pontotoc courthouse might have a will or an estate disposition document naming rebecca jones as heir. there could be a bill of sale for the land. rebecca jones is alone and she doesn’t have property, next door to her daughter.

they may have owned slaves:
Slave Owners
Name Home in 1850
(City,County,State) View
Census Save
This?
William A Jones Pontotoc, Mississippi

Slave Information
Age Gender Race View Census
40 Female Black
20 Male Black

hmmm:

U.S. Federal Census Mortality Schedules Index
about Rebecca Jones
Surname: Rebecca Jones
Year: 1860
County: Pontotoc CO.
State: MS
Age: 50
Gender: F (Female)
Month of Death: Sep
State of Birth: GA
ID#: MRT197_172519
Occupation: NONE LISTED
Cause of Death: CONSUMPTON
i don’t know if this is her. there is more than one rebecca jones in this county at this time.

1860 United States Federal Census
about Willis Jones
Name: Willis Jones
Age in 1860: 49
Birth Year: abt 1811
Birthplace: Kentucky
Home in 1860: White, Pike, Arkansas
Gender: Male
Post Office: Star of the West
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Willis Jones 49
Mary Jones 40
W H Jones 14
J T B Jones 12
A J Jones 10
T L Jones 7
M A Jones 4
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: White, Pike, Arkansas; Roll: M653_47; Page: 519; Image: 523; Family History Library Film: 803047.
you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family. it helps to put an alternate name for the married name, for instance. all were b. MS. so the willis jones family came after the others.

there is a jones family next door, starting on the previous page. you will want to review it.
rebecca jones is on the previous page, so she wasn’t dead in MS, age 82, b. SC. with an elizabeth jones age 27 TN and mary age 4 AR
a. j. jones, a farmer, age 34 and wife m. a., age 33, both born TN. son william age 12 MS and son jessie? age 8 AR.
so we are getting an approximate idea when the migration occurred.

rebecca, willis and andrew own land in pike county, AR. (you will want the purchase and sale documents)

1870 United States Federal Census
about Mary Jones
Name: Mary Jones
Birth Year: abt 1821
Age in 1870: 49
Birthplace: South Carolina
Home in 1870: White, Pike, Arkansas
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Jones 49
John T Jones 21
Andrew J Jones 19
James L Jones 17
Mary A Jones 12
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: White, Pike, Arkansas; Roll: M593_60; Page: 245A; Image: 488; Family History Library Film: 545559.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Mary Jones
Name: Mary Jones
Home in 1880: White, Pike, Arkansas
Age: 65
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Birthplace: South Carolina
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Father’s birthplace: Virginia
Mother’s birthplace: South Carolina
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Gender: Female
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Jones 65
Andrew Jones 26
James Jones 24
Joseph Jones 5
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: White, Pike, Arkansas; Roll: 53; Family History Film: 1254053; Page: 478A; Enumeration District: 126; Image: 0745.

Willis Jones 2nd Regiment, Arkansas Mounted Rifles Confederate Arkansas
View Record
Willis Jones 4th Regiment, Arkansas Cavalry Union Arkansas
View Record
Willis Jones 24th Regiment, Arkansas Infantry Confederate Arkansas
View Record
Willis C. Jones 1st Battalion, Arkansas Infantry (6 months, 1862) Union Arkansas

you will have to check these to see if any mustered out near their location in 1860. also check to see if any of the children were in the military. click on the unit to see the unit history, if any. check the arkansas state archives to see if they have more information.
http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/

Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
about William Jones
Name: William Jones
State Filed: Mississippi and Arkansas
Widow: Mary Jones

pension records are great. they were prepared by attorneys and contain much genealogy information. you will want to log on to ancestry and see the card to tell you the unit #.
since the surname is SO common, try everything you can to make sure it is YOUR relative.

Civil War Pension Index: General Index to Pension Files, 1861-1934
about Willis Jones
Name: Willis Jones
State Filed: Arkansas
Widow: Mary Jones

the unit will be on the card, btw.

land records http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/
you want patents.
the documents can be printed. but you might want the patent too. it will tell you more about the family migration.

choctaw, and other native tongues, were oral traditions. they have no records. the war department was keeping records from about 1800-1880. those are at NARA, national archives and records administration. MS records are at morrow, GA, but other offices have microfilms of many of them. OK/AR records are kept at the fort worth, TX office, but there are microfilms of many of those.

some natives chose the choctaw scrip in lieu of tribal enrollment and did not try to enroll in a tribe. but other family members might have enrolled. the land record might help you with affiliation with a tribe. location is very important and natives tended to live in communities.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto