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Ancestory from GreatGrandmother

Ken Ken

posted on March 14, 2011 and updated on March 14, 2011

I have a very basic question: I recently discovered that my Great Grandmother was full blooded Choctaw, and would like to know what percentage I might be. The lineage is from my Father, to his Mother (my Grandmother) to her Mother (my Great Mother). I do not have any information about date of birth, location etc …
Thanks for any information you may be able to provide.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 15, 2011

you have to do your genealogy. get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents’ information. the idea is to collect documents and then you will know how you are related and to whom. when you get back to the early 1900’s, you can check the dawes roll and see if your ancestors were on it. the dawes roll lists applicants to the tribe, but some were refused enrollment.

if you get stuck, you can get a deceased relative’s social security application which will give you dates and locations and peoples’ names.

some ancestors might not have a birth certificate, but might have filed a delayed birth certificate to show proof of age when they applied for social security 1/1/1937. you have to ask for this document as well, when you ask for birth certificates because they delay puts it in a different chronological category than a birth certificate that was filed at the time of birth.

the 1900-1930 census is available to give you names of people in the household, their approximate ages and birthplaces. the 1940 census will be available in 2012. many people access ancestry.com or heritage quest through the local library for the census.

death certificates, obituaries and cemetery records can give you information about someone’s life, but it isn’t as reliable about birth and life details as it is for the record of death. you can ask for an obituary through interlibrary loan. see your local public library for that. if someone passed away after 1963, they can look up the social security death record through ancestry.com or http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/ to see the birthdate.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society 22
Historic Preservation and
Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center 23
Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

i often start with the death

Ken Ken

posted on March 16, 2011

Thanks for sharing the information. At this time I do not have any data on my Great Grandmother other than she was Choctaw. My question at this time is more of a personal interest as to what percentage (if any) of Choctaw I might be.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 17, 2011

it sounds like you are asking about how to calculate blood quantum. this would also depend on who she married, whether they were native.

ggrandmother 100%
grandmother 1/2, assuming that ggrandfather contributed no native blood
mother 1/4, assuming grandfather contributed no native blood
yourself 1/8, assuming your father didn’t contribute any native blood