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Bob and Motsey James

Chris Chris

posted on March 7, 2011

I am looking for information on Bob and Motsey (Maitsey) James. They had two sons, Geon b. 1873 and Reuben b. 1881. I believe Motsey died in 1901. I am going by the assumption that they were from Mississippi. Other that their Dawes card and enrollment number i have not been able to find out anything else. So how do i go about researching this.
I would love to know where they lived. If they were from Mississippi, what part .When they both were born, when and where they died.
Bob and Motsey James were my grandfathers great grandparents.
If anyone could give me some research tips i would love to follow up on them.
Thank you.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 8, 2011

bob/robert james m. motsey?
geon b. 1873, reugen b. 1881

1910 United States Federal Census
about Geor James
Name: Geor James
[Geon James]
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated Birth Year: 1871
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Mother’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Spouse’s Name: Artie James
Home in 1910: Township 1, McCurtain, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
[Indian (Native American)]
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Geor James 39
Artie James 46
Silas James 17
Jusie James 7
Jacob James 4
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 1, McCurtain, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1261; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 0174; Image: 685; FHL Number: 1375274.
silas is listed as geon’s stepson.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Geon James
Name: Geon James
County: McCurtain
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 1876
Race: Indian (Native American)
FHL Roll Number: 1851808
DraftBoard: 0
this card is available on ancestry.com. your local public library probably has a subscription to ancestry.com.

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Barnes Bessie 0 F 707 P
Choctaw Barnes Jerry 0 M 707 P
Choctaw James Bob 0 M 707 P
Choctaw James Motsey 0 F 707 P
Choctaw James Davis 1 M FULL 707 1715 SMITHVILLE BB
Choctaw James Geon 23 M FULL 707 1713 SMITHVILLE BB
Choctaw James Lita 31 F FULL 707 1714 SMITHVILLE BB
bb=by blood
p=parent

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw James Artie 0 F M715 P
Choctaw James Geon 0 M M715 P
Choctaw James Jacob 1 M FULL M715 581 BEACH M
Choctaw James Incey 3 F FULL M715 580 BEACH M

you can get a copy of this census card, enrollment application and maybe the testimony from oklahoma historical society or NARA,, national archives and record administration, http://www.archives.gov fort worth office. links are in this post.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Reuben James
Name: Reuben James
Age in 1910: 22
Estimated Birth Year: 1888
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Head
[Self (Head)]
Father’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Mother’s Birth Place: Oklahoma
Spouse’s Name: Sinas James
Home in 1910: Township 1, McCurtain, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Married
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Reuben James 22
Sinas James 19
Charlie James 4
Jeona James 1
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 1, McCurtain, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1261; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0175; Image: 699; FHL Number: 1375274.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Ruben James
Name: Ruben James
Home in 1900: Township 2, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 13
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Race: Indian (Native American)
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Parent’s Name: Mulsie James
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mulsie James 53
Ruben James 13
Liney James 15
1900 United States Federal Census
about Mulsie James
Name: Mulsie James
Home in 1900: Township 2, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 53
Birthplace: Indian Territory, Oklahoma
Race: Indian (Native American)
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 2, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: T623_1852; Enumeration District: 108.

liney isi motsey’s daughter.

i don’t know if this is reuben james:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about R B James
Name: R B James
County: McCurtain
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 1887
Race: Choctaw
FHL Roll Number: 1851808
DraftBoard: 0

the dawes application might have more information about the parents.
i couldn’t find the two boys in later census records, maybe they moved.

a family tree on ancestry.com shows that geon passed away in 1919 and reuben passed away in 1918.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname,

you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden

name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate,

your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone

passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government

for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate.

death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local

public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records

and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public

information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for

enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t

have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu

of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they

had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other

names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are

especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other

oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma

and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed

records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will

improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get

the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a

record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching

google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the

choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto