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Herron family geneology

Debra McIntyre Debra McIntyre

posted on March 1, 2011

Hello. My grandfather, Curtis Wilson Herron was born in Ennis, TX., in 1906. His father, Wilson Herron, was born in the 1800’s in either OK, or, TX. According to my grandfather who is now deceased, our family originated in the Choctaw Nation in OK. Wilson Herron was a minister, and again, according to my grandfather, our family at one time was a family of means in OK. It is not clear whether the Native American connection derived from his mother, who’s last name I believe was “Furnace”, or, his father. I remember my grandfather taking us kids to the reservation on Cape Cod, MA., to witness ceremonies, where we were given Native names, which I also cannot remember. Our family is looked upon as African American, although we have no history of African heritage. We would like to know more about our Choctaw background, but, have no idea of where to begin. Can U help?

Sincerely,

Debra

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 2, 2011

wilson herron b. 1880’s TX?
curtis wilson herron b. 1906 TX

have you looked at the tribes in TX? there are some links in this post.

1930 United States Federal Census
about Wilson Herron
Name: Wilson Herron
Home in 1930: Dallas, Dallas, Texas
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Age: 50
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Ruthie Herron
Race: Black
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Wilson Herron 50
Ruthie Herron 48
Gertrude P Mcgill 22
Landrum Mcgill 32
Clifton White 8
Albert J Crenshaw 70
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Dallas, Dallas, Texas; Roll: 2317; Page: 8B; Enumeration District: 58; Image: 17.0.
this census says he was a janitor for a retail store.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Wilson Herron
Name: Wilson Herron
Home in 1900: Ennis Ward 4, Ellis, Texas
[Ennis, Ellis, Texas]
Age: 19
Birth Date: Apr 1881
Birthplace: Texas
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Name: Riley Herron
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Name: Matilda Herron
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members:
Name Age
Riley Herron 37
Matilda Herron 37
Wilson Herron 19
Lula Herron 17
Lizzie Herron 14
Ada Herron 13
Maude D Herron 11
T V Herron 8
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Ennis Ward 4, Ellis, Texas; Roll: T623_1630; Page: 23B; Enumeration District: 25.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Wilson Herron
Name: Wilson Herron
Home in 1880: Precinct 3, Ellis, Texas
Age: 1m
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father’s Name: Riley Herron
Father’s birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Name: Matilda Herron
Mother’s birthplace: Texas
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Occupation: At Home
Marital Status: Single
Race: Black
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Riley Herron 20
Matilda Herron 20
Atony Herron 2
Wilson Herron 1m
Jesse Neal 18
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Precinct 3, Ellis, Texas; Roll: 1301; Family History Film: 1255301; Page: 444C; Enumeration District: 48; .

Texas Death Index, 1903-2000
about Wilson Earnest Herron
Name: Wilson Earnest Herron
Death Date: 30 Jun 1934
Death County: Dallas
Certificate: 26560

Social Security Death Index
about Curtis W. Herron
Name: Curtis W. Herron
SSN: 451-03-8354
Last Residence: 02119 Roxbury, Suffolk, Massachusetts, United States of America
Born: 11 Mar 1906
Died: 4 May 1998
State (Year) SSN issued: Texas (Before 1951)

Massachusetts Death Index, 1970-2003
about Curtis W Herron
Name: Curtis W Herron
Certificate: 003058
Death Place: Boston
Death Date: 4 May 1998
Birth Place: Texas
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1906
http://www.mass.gov/?pageID=eohhs2agencylanding&L=4&L0=Home&L1=Government&L2=Departments+and+Divisions&L3=Department+of+Public+Health&sid=Eeohhs2

1930 United States Federal Census
about Curtis Herron
Name: Curtis Herron
Home in 1930: Italy, Ellis, Texas
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Age: 24
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Carrie M Herron
Race: Black
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Curtis Herron 24
Carrie M Herron 24
Argerie L Herron 5
Curtis N Herron 3 2/12
Charles E Herron
Marcelis Copeland 8

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Italy, Ellis, Texas; Roll: 2327; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 42; Image: 545.0.

Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997
about Charles Earnest Herron
Name: Charles Earnest Herron
Date of Birth: 15 Feb 1930
Gender: Male
Birth County: Ellis
Father’s Name: Curtis Wilson Herron
Mother’s Name: Carrie Mae Davidson
Roll Number: 1930_0004

U.S. Public Records Index, Volume 1
about Curtis W Herron
Name: Curtis W Herron
Birth Date: 11 Mar 1906
Address: 146 Blue Hill Ave, Roxbury, MA, 02119-2117 (1993)

i think you left out some details, such as spouse names in your post. this would have helped me locate records.

i don’t see any residence in oklahoma though. still i can’t find your family in some census records.

if your family was native, they might have been mississippi choctaw or a texas tribe.

there are a few family trees on ancestry. one of them says that ernest wilson herron was married to a charlotte furnace.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto