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Mike Mike

posted on February 26, 2011 and updated on February 26, 2011

My great grandmother Rebecca Marceline Read was born in Louisiana in 1867. Her parents (Charles E. Read and Olivea C. Read) are from the area where Mississippi and Louisiana meet in the top of the toe around what is now McComb. It is believed that Charles and Olivea both were members of the Choctaw nation in that area but whether or not Charles was is questionable. Our family has passed down as fact that Olivea was but in my search for information on her I have hit a dead end. I don’t even have any information on a maiden name for her although there is a possibility that it was Courtney. Does anyone know of any records for Choctaws that stayed in Mississippi? I do know that in the 1880 census she reported her birth year as 1850 which was after the removal. Just looking for ways to continue my search and not sure what resources are out there. Thanks for any help you can give.

Mike

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 26, 2011

you might try the jena choctaw tribe in louisiana.
explore the tribes that were state and federal in the area where they lived. this messageboard is on the choctaw tribe in oklahoma website. this post might give you several ideas for pursuing records..

charles e. read m. olivea c. ?
rebecca marceline read but no spouse, children, dates.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Charles E. Read
Name: Charles E. Read
Home in 1880: 5th Ward, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse’s Name: Olivea C. Read
Father’s birthplace: Louisiana
Mother’s birthplace: Louisiana
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Minister Of The Gospel
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles E. Read 45
Olivea C. Read 30
Marcaline Read 13
Magdaline Read 11
Mrceline Read 9
Judson Read 3
Mary Mcadams 5
William Mcadams 3
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: 5th Ward, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Roll: 452; Family History Film: 1254452; Page: 513B; Enumeration District: 108; Image: 0891.
if he was a minister, there might also be church records.

the mcadams are also listed as children of charles. it is possible they might be a different relation, since they have a different surname.

all people were b. LA and their parents were b. LA.

i don’t know if this might be your ancestor:
U.S. Civil War Soldier Records and Profiles
about Charles Read
Name: Charles Read
Residence: New Orleans, Louisiana
Occupation: Boatman
Age at enlistment: 28
Enlistment Date: 19 May 1861
Rank at enlistment: Private
Enlistment Place: New Oleans, LA
State Served: Virginia
Survived the War?: Yes
Service Record: Enlisted in Company A, Virginia 59th Infantry Regiment on 19 May 1861.
Mustered out on 31 Dec 1862.
Description: , light hair.
Birth Date: abt 1833
Sources: The Virginia Regimental Histories Series

American Civil War Soldiers
about Charles Read
Name: Charles Read
Residence: New Orleans, Louisiana
Occupation: Boatman
Enlistment Date: 19 May 1861
Enlistment Place: New Oleans, Louisiana
Side Served: Confederacy
State Served: Virginia
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private on 19 May 1861 at the age of 28.
Enlisted in Company A, 59th Infantry Regiment Virginia on 19 May 1861.
Deserted from Company A, 59th Infantry Regiment Virginia on 31 Dec 1862.
Sources: 21
Hair Color: light

there was another charles w. read in the area.

this may be a “blended” family. olivea might have been previously married and the children might be under a different surname.

i often find that starting with the death might be wise, then working backward. is this your relative?
Louisiana Statewide Death Index, 1900-1949
about Charles E Reed
Name: Charles E Reed
Death Date: 25 Feb 1933
Estimated Birth Year: 1932
Age: 01 Year

Parish: Tangipahoa
Certificate Number: 2331
Volume: 6
an obituary would be helpful.

this family is hard to find.
slavery might have been an issue. many natives were slaves, especially if they were mixed race.
since i don’t know rebecca’s married name, i cannot search for her.
did one of these people live past 1/1/1937? they would have filed for social security and had to submit proof of age. often this took the form of a delayed birth certificate. there might be something there.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname,

you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden

name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate,

your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone

passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government

for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate.

death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local

public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records

and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public

information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for

enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t

have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu

of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they

had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other

names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are

especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other

oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma

and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southwest tribes. many offices have microfilmed

records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will

improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get

the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a

record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching

google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the

choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

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suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 27, 2011

1900 United States Federal Census
about Rufus Lovett
Name: Rufus Lovett
Home in 1900: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana
[East Baton Rouge, Louisiana]
Age: 10
Birth Date: Nov 1889
Birthplace: La
[Louisiana]
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s Name: R K Lovett
Father’s Birthplace: Miss
Mother’s Name: Marcine R Lovett
Mother’s Birthplace: La
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
R K Lovett 49
Marcine R Lovett 33
Alice Lovett 12
Rufus Lovett 10
Isaac Lovett 8
Willie Lovett 5
Johnnie Lovett 2
Susan Lovett 1/12

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Roll: T623_563; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 44.

marcine says she was b. jan. 1867.
1910 United States Federal Census
about Marsaline Lovett
Name: Marsaline Lovett
Age in 1910: 43
Estimated Birth Year: 1867
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Father’s Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother’s Birth Place: Louisiana
Spouse’s Name: Rufus K Lovett
Home in 1910: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rufus K Lovett 59
Marsaline Lovett 43
Alice Lovett 22
Rufus Lovett 20
Charles Lovett 17
William Lovett 15
John Lovett 12
Susie Lovett 9
Henry Lovett 8
Robert Lovett 5
Clyde Lovett 6/12
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Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Roll: T624_513; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0037; Image: 1234; FHL Number: 1374526.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Marslie Lovett
Name: Marslie Lovett
Home in 1920: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: R K Lovett
Father’s Birth Place: United States of America
Mother’s Birth Place: Mississippi
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
R K Lovett 68
Marslie Lovett 53
Isacc Lovett 28
Willie Lovett 25
J F Lovett 22
Clay Lovett 17
Robert Lovett 14
Clyde Lovett 10
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Roll: T625_611; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 40; Image: 335.

1930 United States Federal Census
about Rufus K Lovatt
Name: Rufus K Lovatt
Home in 1930: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana
View Map
Age: 79
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Marsalener Lovatt
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Rufus K Lovatt 79
Marsalener Lovatt 63
William T Lovatt 35
John F Lovatt 33
Lena B Lovatt 26
Jewel M Lovatt 4/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Police Jury Ward 10, East Baton Rouge, Louisiana; Roll: 792; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 34; Image: 522.0.

you can correct the ancestry.com name index so that others can find your family.

Louisiana Land Records
about Rufus K Lovett
Name: Rufus K Lovett
Land Office: NEW ORLEANS
Sequence #: 1
Document Number: 3629
Total Acres: 83.12
Misc. Doc. Nr.: 11112
Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No
Issue Date: 1 Mar 1892
Mineral Rights Reserved: No
Metes and Bounds: No
Statutory Reference: 12 Stat. 392
Multiple Warantee Names: No
Act or Treaty: May 20, 1862
Multiple Patentee Names: No
Entry Classification: Homestead Entry Original
Land Description:
1 E½NW ST. HELENA No 5 S 2 E 31
Source Information:
United States, Bureau of Land Management. Louisiana Land Records [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 1997.
Original data: United States, Bureau of Land Management. Louisiana Pre-1908 Homestead and Cash Entry Patents. General Land Office Automated Records Project, 1993.

i don’t know if this is your family:
Charles Bread 22
Margret Bread 25
Charls Bread 5
Maccela Bread 3
Mahala Bread 1
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Ward 9, Livingston, Louisiana; Roll: M593_517; Page: 49A; Image: 101; Family History Library Film: 552016.

if marcelina lovett’s social security application is available, that might help. if she passed away after 1/1/1937, there would be one on file. in addition, she would have had to show proof of age, which might involve a delayed birth certificate.

Rebecca Rebecca

posted on March 2, 2013

Rebecca Marsaline Reid’s parents were Charles Ephriam Reid (4/7/1841 to 12/5/1921) and Margaret Jain Kyzar (4/24/1846 to 4/1/1862). She married Rufus King Lovett and is buried at Zoar Baptist Church in Central, LA. Charles Ephriam Reid married Olivia “ollie” Courtney in 1880. Her birthdate is 10/1850 or1851. She is also buried at Zoar Baptist Church her headstone reads Mrs Ollie Reid. My great grandmother was Rebecca Marsaline’s older sister Elisa Ursaline. I was always told that she was part Choctaw Indian. I think the connection is with their mother Margaret Kyzar. Hope this helps.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on March 3, 2013

margaret jain kyzar b. 24 Apr 1846 d. 1 Apr 1862

i am not sure who married rufus king lovett.

this bible might help you:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/la/state/bible/lghsbible/bible1-3.txt

REID-HOLDEN BIBLE

Published in 1841, Geo. Lane, New York. In possession of Mrs.

Lucille Wascomb Wesley, 8925 Airline Highway, Baton Rouge, La. Notarized copy
in possession of Mrs. J. P. Morris, Jr., Kentwood, La.

RECORD “Rebecca Read, her book, from her father Joseph Holden” Joseph Holden born Jan 1, 1787 Charlotte Holden, wife of Joseph Holden Dec. 1, 1814 Lorenza Holden, son of Joseph October 27, 1811 Joseph L. Holden January 18, 1818 Rebecca Holden September 21, 1818 Altizary Holden born March 22, 1822 Lewis Westley Holden, born Sept. 26, 1824 Lewis B. Maginley March 25, 1839 Matilda Maginly July 7, 1844 Angeline Maginly August 18, 1841 Elizabeth Ann Maj (?) b. Aug. 13, 1848 Mathaan Rebecca Holden b. Aug. 25, 1851 Ashford Winfield Auston Dec. 5, 1849 Willis Gibson Auston Sept. 8, 1845 Samuel Aleseander Morgan Sept. 9, 1838 Luther Otto Reid Oct. 27, 1874 Mary Irean Reid Jan 5, 1877 Willy Walldon Reid April 24, 1874 Altizary Reed born Aug. 7, 1836 Derill Ward Reid July 20, 1843 John Armston Reed b. Nov. 7, 1845 Lewis Wesley Joseph Reid Anderson born Sept. 11, 1848 Holden Francis Marion Reid born Jan. 14, 1850 Alexandria Winfield Reid born Nov. 2, 1852, died June 9, 1879 Margaret Vashti Reed born July 20, 1855 Rachael Morgana Reed born June 29, 1858 Colaste Canzady born March 14, 1856 Louisiana Morganer Reed born Sept. 16, 1860 Charles Eckford Read, son of Charles Ephram born April 17, 1864 Joseph Holden born July 16, 1859 Vashti Fields born May 7, 1791 Christafor Columbus Reid son of Dairril Ward Reid born Aug. 21, 1868 and

dide Jan. 1, 1869
Rebecca Reed was born Jan 26, 1870
Armston Reed born March 30, 1872

MARRIAGES Elijah Ward Reid and Rebecca Reid married March 4, 1845 Lewis W. Holden and Mary M. Ann Tayler married Nov. 12, 1850 Frederick Kizar married Altazary Jenkins July 22, 1858 Charles E. Reid married Margaret Jain Kyzar April 1, 1862 Darell Ward Reid married Mary A. Kyzar May 16, 1867 Ashford W. Auston married Miss July Ann Kyzar Oct. 2, 1870; d. Nov. 14,

1871
Holden F. M. Reid married Frances Morgan November 9, 1871
J. A. Reid and Ancebell Morgan married Jan. 5, 1869

DEATHS Lorenza Holden died 1825 Joseph Jackson Holden died 1838 John Maginly died July 17, 1844 Lewis B. Maginly died August 15, 1843 Lewis Wesley Joseph Anderson Reed died Nov. 1848 Lewis W. Holder, died Sept. 29, 1859 Charlotte Holden died July 12, 1866 Joseph Holden died Jan. 4, 1847 Priscilla Richardson died Feb. 10, 1838 Vashti Holden died July 6, 1835 Samuel A. Morgan died Oct. 16, 1862 Rebecca Reed died April 13, 1874 at 56 Darrell Ward Reid d. May 12, 1877 Elijah Ward Reid died May 22, 1877 Lewis Malachi Reid b. Dec. 2, 1869 d. Aug. 15, 1887 Rachel M. Read died April 23, 1934 at 76 Marg. V. Reid Morgan died Feb. 27, 1948 Louisiana Margiana Reid Wascom, wife of Joseph R. Wascom, died June 3,

1946

1860 United States Federal Census about Margaret Kyzar
Name: Margaret Kyzar
[Margaret Kyser]
Age in 1860: 13
Birth Year: abt 1847
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1860: Livingston, Louisiana
Gender: Female
Post Office: Springfield
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
F Kyzar 34
Ullagine Kyzar 22
Margaret Kyzar 13
Mary Kyzar 11
Julia Kyzar 9
John Kyzar 8
Rebecca Kyzar 2
Colastia Kyzar 5
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: , Livingston, Louisiana; Roll: M653_413; Page: 248; Image: 247; Family History Library Film: 803413.

f. kyzar was b. MS and his wife was b. LA.

the last two children were b. LA but the other children were b. MS. maybe f. kyzar had been married previously?

1870 United States Federal Census about F Kyser
Name: F Kyser
Age in 1870: 45
Birth Year: abt 1825
Birthplace: Mississippi
Home in 1870: Ward 6, Livingston, Louisiana
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Springfield
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
F Kyser 45
July Kyser 20
Mary Kyser 15
Nancy Kyser 13
William Kyser 10
Henry Kyser 4
George Kyser 1
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Ward 6, Livingston, Louisiana; Roll: M593_517; Page: 31A; Image: 65; Family History Library Film: 552016.

first name of her father is frederick. he is a farmer on the 1860 census.

this is from a tree on ancestry.com. i noticed that many of the trees with this person are not well-documented on ancestry.com.

Margaret Jane Kyzar
Birth 1846 in Ms
Death 01 MAR 1880

mother:
Mary Anneliza Morgan
Birth 1824
Death 6 Nov 1855
Frederick Kyzar 1826 – 1900

Margaret Jane Kyzar 1846 – 1880 Mary Ann Kyzar 1848 – 1946 Julie Ann Kyzar 1851 – 1870 John Jackson Kyzar 1854 – 1936

another family tree:
Name: Mary Ann KYZAR
Name: Mary Ann REED
Sex: F
Change Date: 29 APR 2008
Birth: 08 SEP 1844 in Louisiana, USA
Death: 13 SEP 1946 in Husser, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, USA
Burial: SEP 1946 Noah Cem., Husser, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, USA
Event: Obituary 20 SEP 1946 Husser, Tangipahoa Parish, Louisiana, USA
Note:

20 Sep 1946; Sec. 1, p. 1: Mrs. Mary Ann Kyzar Reid, 98, widow of Joe Reid, succumbed last Friday in her home in Husser. She was the oldest citizen of the 5th Ward, believed to be the oldest in Tangipahoa parish. She was born 8 Sep 1844, a daughter of Livingston parish’s pioneer family. She moved to Husser 60 years ago. Funeral services were held Saturday; interment was in the Noah cemetery. She is survived by four daughters, Miss Liza Reid, Mrs. Mary Lee, Mrs. Susan Lee and Vicy Populus; one son, Garfield Reid; 31 grandchildren, 65 great, grandchildren and 10 great, great, grandchildren. Submitted to the USGenWeb Archives by Carol and Jerry Nelson, Dec, 2003 – Thank you.

there were some choctaw scrip lands given in MS to people with the surname of kyzar but i didn’t see an f. kyzar or a fred kyzar. these were in lawrence county, MS.

this post is confusing because you seem to be looking for other people that are not your direct ancestors. i am not sure why.

i think you should tell what documents you have on the children, then tell who the parents are. also locations and dates.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1930 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2) ancestry.com.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
http://www.archives.gov
try the fort worth, TX office.

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/

social security application for a deceased person:
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and ancestry.com. fold3.com is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are allowed.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on rootsweb.com or ancestry.com.
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try findagrave.com or interment.net. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. ancestry.com and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA (http://www.archives.gov) are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
several helpful links for records in the choctaw territory

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants can be found here:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Commission
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment
http://www.felihkatubbe.com/ChoctawNation/TribalMembership.html

freedmen information:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ewyatt/_borders/
http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/F/FR016.html
http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/8-chocfreed.htm
http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
http://www.fold3.com/documents/46580455/dawes-packets/
other resources are NARA http://www.archives.gov

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
http://books.google.com/books/about/Five_civilized_tribes_in_Oklahoma.html?id=chATAAAAYAAJ
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.
http://www.archives.gov/southwest/finding-aids/native-american-microfilm.html

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA http://www.archives.gov for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23 RECORDS OF THE COMMISSIONER TO THE FIVE CIVILIZED TRIBES 1852-1919
75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
http://www.archives.gov/research/guide-fed-records/groups/075.html
(Record Group 75)
1793-1989

http://okhistory.cuadra.com/star/public.html
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/
some obituaries:
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/obituaries/

NARA http://www.archives.gov/ federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from nara.gov.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_quantum_laws
calculations about blood quantum:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wishawa4/Menominee%20Indians/quantum.htm

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears
http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes:
http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
http://www.chickasaw.net/index.htm

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

http://www.okhistory.org/
oklahoma historical society
marriage records
http://www.okhistory.org/research/library/marriage.html
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/chocmarriageindex.htm

other historical societies:
http://www.daddezio.com/society/hill/SH-OK-NDX.html
some oklahoma genealogical societies:
http://www.censusfinder.com/oklahoma-genealogy-society.htm
http://www.geneasearch.com/societies/socokla.htm

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html
http://yvwiiusdinvnohii.net/OKTribes.htm

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
http://www.archive.org/details/fivecivilizedtr00statgoog
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. ancestry.com has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA http://www.archives.gov has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw was not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
http://www.us-census.org/native/choctaw_dawes.html
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page
http://www.us-census.org/states/graphics/status.htm

and this might be of interest to you:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/choctaw/rights-of-choctaws.htm
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalrolls/
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.
http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
http://www.usgwarchives.org/special/ppcs/ppcs.html
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto