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William Henry Reed Family William Henry Reed Family

posted on February 9, 2011

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Julie Seeking info on Great Grandmother Tabitha Reid Julie started a new discussion in Genealogy on August 8, 2010 I am seeking info on my maternal great or great-great Grandmother, who I am told was full blood Choctaw. Her maiden name was Reid or Ried. I am not sure. She married a Cook, and died in Upshur County, TX. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated!

Tabitha Reed was my grandfather sister.
Please contact me, I have heard the same story….

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 9, 2011

you need dates, locations, children and spouse in your post.

did you look at the answers in your previous post?

you haven’t said what william henry reed has to do with tabitha reid.

i’m guessing here, since the name is common:
1930 United States Federal Census
about Tabitha M Cook
Name: Tabitha M Cook
Home in 1930: Precinct 6, Upshur, Texas
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Age: 38
Estimated birth year: abt 1892
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s name: Marvin T Cook
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Marvin T Cook 42
Tabitha M Cook 38
Sala M Cook 22
Lily E Cook 19
Eva C Cook 15
Jessie N Cook 13
Fannie B Cook 10
Cecil F Cook 7
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Precinct 6, Upshur, Texas; Roll: 2403; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 16; Image: 899.0.
marvin is a farmer, b. ~1888 TX, parents b. MS. first married at age 19.
tabitha is his wife, b. ~1892 TX, parents b. GA. first married at age 15.
that would put the marriage around 1907.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Tabitha Cook
Name: Tabitha Cook
Home in 1920: Justice Precinct 4, Sabine, Texas
Age: 27
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s name: Marvin Cook
Father’s Birth Place: Texas
Mother’s Birth Place: Texas
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Marvin Cook 31
Tabitha Cook 27
Lula M Cook 12
Lillie P Cook 8
Eva L Cook 5
Jessie Cook 2
[2 11/12]
Fannie B Cook 0
[1/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Justice Precinct 4, Sabine, Texas; Roll: T625_1842; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 171; Image: 966.
now they both say their parents were b. TX. marvin is a laborer.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Lula M Cook
Name: Lula M Cook
Age in 1910: 2
Estimated birth year: 1908
Birthplace: Texas
Relation to Head of House: Granddaughter
Father’s Birth Place: Texas
Mother’s name: Tabitha Cook
Mother’s Birth Place: Texas
Home in 1910: Justice Precinct 5, Comanche, Texas
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Female
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Household Members:
Name Age
William H Reed 44
Lydia F Reed 42
Elmer M Reed 14
Dollie Reed 10
Queen B Reed 7
Katie V Reed 5
Tabitha Cook 19
Lula M Cook 2
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Justice Precinct 5, Comanche, Texas; Roll: T624_1541; Page: 25A; Enumeration District: 0010; Image: 347; FHL Number: 1375554.
father b. GA, mother b. AL
so you should look at the MOWA tribe or the mississippi choctaw.
there are also texas tribes, links in this post.
the location is very important.
her father is a blacksmith, rents a house.

i don’t know if this is the same family:
1900 United States Federal Census
about Wm H Reed
Name: Wm H Reed
Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 5, Comanche, Texas
[Comanche, Texas]
Age: 25
Birth Date: Mar 1875
Birthplace: Georgia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father’s Birthplace: Georgia
Mother’s Birthplace: Georgia
Spouse’s name: Maud Reed
Marriage Year: 1895
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 5
Occupation: View on Image
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Household Members:
Name Age
Wm H Reed 25
Maud Reed 31
Ethel Reed 3
Leallcan Reed 11
Lillian Reed 13
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 5, Comanche, Texas; Roll: T623_1623; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 33.
he’s a farmer.
some things match, some don’t.

there are many marvin cook records in 1900. but i chose this one because of the county.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Marvin C Cook
Name: Marvin C Cook
Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Comanche, Texas
[Comanche, Texas]
Age: 14
Birth Date: Oct 1885
Birthplace: Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Son
Father’s name: Samuel H Cook
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s name: Laura E Cook
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Marital Status: Single
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel H Cook 42
Laura E Cook 34
Marvin C Cook 14
James E Cook 12
Leroy Cook 10
Basoons Cook 8
Anna M Cook 5
Rubie Cook 9/12
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 1, Comanche, Texas; Roll: T623_1622; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 26.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

William Henry Reed Family William Henry Reed Family

posted on February 18, 2011

My great grandfather/grandmother (William H Reed and Lydia F Reed) were Tabitha Cook parents and Lula Cook (grandparents).
Thus my grandfather (Henry V Reed, sister)

Another Question: I have located a record (Oklahoma, application for enrollment to the five civilized tribes, 1898-1914 for Henry Reed. How can I get more information on this Henry Reed, to make sure is my grandfather.

You help would be appreciated.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 19, 2011

you should write for the census card and application, any testimony.

http://www.nara.gov fort worth office
oklahoma historical society
http://www.okhistory.org/
i don’t know if footnote.com has a copy also, but this is a subscription website. you can check here.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
the cost for a monthly subscription is less than the cost by the other two sources of information but i don’t know if they have yet captured these particular records for viewing/printing.

gl.