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Searching for BARKER/BENNETT

Running Shadow Running Shadow

posted on January 29, 2011

I am trying to locate a married couple. They reportedly are both from Arkansas and settled in Bell County, Texas.
I only have initials for their first names.
His name is given as T.J. BARKER. The 1880 U.S. Census shows him as being 15 years old and working on a farm in Kings River, Madison County, Arkansas. I have unconfirmed reports that he may have been born in Scotland, Missouri.
She is given as N.J. BENNETT. The only information on her that I have is her name which appears on a death certificate for their daughter, SALLIE DEE BARKER who died in Dallas, Texas in 1925. Sallie reportedly lived in Temple, Texas and upon her death in Dallas, was transported back to Temple and buried there. I’d appreciate any information that anyone can provide.
Thanks

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 30, 2011

t. j. barker b. ~1865 AR? MO? m. n. j.
sallie dee barker b. ? d. 1925 dallas, TX

no children in your post. this would help with the migration pattern. no date of death for t. j. barker.

1880 United States Federal Census
about T. J. Barker
Name: T. J. Barker
Home in 1880: Kings River, Madison, Arkansas
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1865
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Works On Farm
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members:
Name Age
Sam Cline 56
Mary Cline 54
May Cline 16
Emeline Cline 14
Caroline Cline 12
T. J. Barker 15
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Kings River, Madison, Arkansas; Roll: 50; Family History Film: 1254050; Page: 489A; Enumeration District: 101; Image: 0702.

he works their farm but nothing known.
i wonder if you found him in another census, if you found him in this one.

i don’t know if you realize that you have left out a bunch of details. like when sallie was born, where she was born, whether she married, other children of t. j. barker and n. j.. few dates, locations.

is this your sallie dee?
Texas Death Index, 1903-2000
about Sallie Dee Jackson
Name: Sallie Dee Jackson
Death Date: 19 Apr 1925
Death County: Dallas
Certificate: 13471

temple is in bell county, TX.

i would suggest that you give dates, locations, children, spouse in your post. i have looked for these people but not found anything.
or would this be them?
1900 United States Federal Census
about N A Barker
Name: N A Barker
[N A Barkes]
Home in 1900: Justice Precinct 1, Parker, Texas
[Weatherford, Parker, Texas]
Age: 45
Birth Date: Sep 1854
Birthplace: Missouri
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relationship to head-of-house: Wife
Father’s Birthplace: Missouri
Mother’s Birthplace: Missouri
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 10
Spouse’s name: Thomas Barker
Marriage Year: 1869
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 31
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Barker 55
N A Barker 45
Annie Barker 21
Ella Baskis 17
Green F Baskis 14
Pearl Baskis 12
Letha Baskis 3
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Justice Precinct 1, Parker, Texas; Roll: T623_1664; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 62.

do you have death certificates, obituaries, cemetery records?

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Running Shadow Running Shadow

posted on February 2, 2011

Dear Suzanne – Halito!
Let me begin by apologizing for not responding back sooner.
Life gets hectic some times.
That said, let me also say that I am overwhelmed by the wealth of information which you have sent me.You have given me tools which I know will help answer a lot of questions. I have been on the quest for my wife’s missing relatives for over 25 years now and I must admit, I was getting quite discouraged. The post that I made on this page was sort of a “Hail Mary” posting. I realize it’s not according to standard genealogy posting, but then, what I put on there is basically almost all of what I have, even after all these years of looking.
Years back, when I first met my wife, she told me there were strained relations between she and her parents. I made it part of my goal in life to try and correct this. I was fortunate to accomplish a little, but only a little. During one of our visits with her parents, we were viewing a photo album that the wife had never seen. While we were looking at the photos, my wife noticed a photo of a man in full Native American regalia. The wife asked her mother who the gentleman was and her mother replied, “That’s your great, great grandfather”. At that point, her father, who had been sitting basically quiet nearby grunted and said, “There ain’t no damned indians in our family”. With that he left the room. My wife asked her mother if she could have the photo to put on our family photo wall at home and her mother gave it to her. A few days later, both mother and dad came to our house to visit.Later that day, the wife noticed the photo was missing from the wall collection. Both mother and dad denied any knowledge of the photo.A short while ago, the wife reunited with a younger brother and during their conversations, he said that he too had heard that there was Native American blood in their family and he believed it was Choctaw. That night, I posted that “desperation post” hoping that someone out in the world might notice the names and drop me a line. As luck would have it, I did get a reply on another group from a lady that stated that she too had a similar occurence. The name she is searching for is W.E.BENNETT.Just as with our ancestors, there are no given names for the folks, just initials. Also, as with my wife’s family, a portion of the records that are in the Court House files contain “corrections” made to the records per Affidavit. When we attempted to obtain a copy of the Affidavit to establish the facts of the change, we were informed that the Affidavit was “sealed by court order and only an order from a judge could release the contents.” We were traveling and on limited time so it was not possible to initiate that action at that time.
Over the years, I have amassed copies of births, marriages and deaths certificates, but while some answers have been obtained, many new questions were developed. The wife’s maiden name is JACKSON. In searching the court records, we found that there was a virtual parallel family listed in the court records with nearly similar dates for the parties llisted. Numerous “nick names” were given which further confused the issue as were the same given names for some of the siblings. It almost became comical at first, but not now. The wife and I are both in our late 60’s now and her mother and father are both deceased. We are hoping that the re-entry of her younger brother into her life might solve some of the mysteries that have plauged her over these years.
Again, let me thank you for taking the time to write what amounts to almost a book of instructions on how to proceed. Rest assured, I will put that information to good use and hopefully, one day, we will have the real story. As I have often told folks we talk to, our’s is not to establish Indian heritage so as to take advantage of the situation. The wife just wants to know who she is and who her relatives are. If they are the original residents of our great nation, then so much the better. If we can meet some of her family, then that is a blessing beyond belief.
Thank You,
Bob