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Family of Elizabeth Ann Armour

edithjorgensen edithjorgensen

posted on January 27, 2011

I am tracing my mother’s family and have found this name
(her great grandmother) signed in on the twelfth census at the indian territory, choctaw nation June 16, 1900. I’d like to know
more…..

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 28, 2011

not sure if this is a maiden name or married name. no spouse, no children, no location, no dates, other than she was alive 6/19/1900. unfortunately, i cannot find her, given the information you have posted. if you have found a record of the relative and she was also known by another name, you can correct the ancestry.com name index so that others can find your family.

you have to realize that there were many people living in oklahoma and indian territory in 1900. some came for commerce, some came because of the land rushes, some were planning to apply for tribal enrollment, some were former slaves.

so i will give you the resources that i use.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

edithjorgensen edithjorgensen

posted on January 30, 2011

On the 12th census, dated june 16, 1900 she was listed
as Elizabeth Robertson. Living with her son Robert,
sister Mary J. Coffee, Patty Armor Aunt. She lived in Indian
Territory, Choctaw nation, roberta township. Elizabeth Armor
was her maiden name. Born in Alabama

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 30, 2011

elizabeth ann armor b. AL 3/1835 unknown parents b. NC m. ? robertson
daughter mary j. coffee b. 5/1858 AL
sister patty armor b. 4/1822 NC
robert, son b. 2/1868 AL, parents b. AL

1900 United States Federal Census
about Robt Robertson
Name: Robt Robertson
Home in 1900: Township 7, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory
Age: 32
Birthplace: Alabama
Race: White
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Mother’s name: Eliz A Robertson
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Robt Robertson 32
Eliz A Robertson 65
Mary J Coffee 42
Patty Armer 78
Welby Henson 20
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 7, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll: T623_1852; Enumeration District: 115.
the family made a late migration from the southeast, so they didn’t go on the trail of tears.
if they are native, maybe mississippi choctaw or MOWA. the NC means maybe choctaw, chickasaw or cherokee too.

1880 United States Federal Census
about Robert A. H. Robertson
Name: Robert A. H. Robertson
Home in 1880: Moulton, Lawrence, Alabama
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father’s birthplace: Alabama
Mother’s name: Elizabeth Robertson
Mother’s birthplace: Alabama
Neighbors: View others on page
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Elizabeth Robertson 47
C. C. J. Robertson 16
Adaline M. Robertson 14
Robert A. H. Robertson 12
Mary A. Armor 57
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Moulton, Lawrence, Alabama; Roll: 18; Family History Film: 1254018; Page: 427A; Enumeration District: 173; Image: 0696.

this might be her:
1870 United States Federal Census
about Elizabeth Robertson
Name: Elizabeth Robertson
Birth Year: abt 1838
Age in 1870: 32
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1870: Moulton, Lawrence, Alabama
Race: White
Gender: Female
Value of real estate: View image
Post Office: Moulton and Landersville
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm H Robertson 44
Elizabeth Robertson 32
James R Robertson 5
Sarah M Robertson 2
Chas C Robertson 4/12
Eliza Cockran 53
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Moulton, Lawrence, Alabama; Roll: M593_22; Page: 138B; Image: 279; Family History Library Film: 545521.
but i don’t know where robert is.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

edithjorgensen edithjorgensen

posted on January 31, 2011

You are awesome, thank you so much. My mom is 89 years
old and I would so love to prove what she has always
beleived her heritage to be. I make quilts, and would like for
her 90th birthday present to be proof of her ancestry and a
tribal quilt. I have a picture of my grandmother and her
brothers and they look total Indian. Knowing for sure is so
important for my mother and until now I have not had the time
to do this research. Thank you again.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 1, 2011

maybe the 1870 james r. is robert.

look at the location. see if it’s the MOWA tribe or the mississippi choctaw.

the location is important.

gl.

delanna robertson delanna robertson

posted on January 4, 2012

Edith—
If it’s the same person, Elizabeth Ann Armor is my great-great grandmother, so I’m thinking that makes us cousins! Her gravestone is pictured on findagrave.com under “Elizabeth Ann Armor Robertson”. She married Calvin Sydney Johnson Robertson; they had several children. One of them is my father’s father. She’s buried in the small town of Wapanucka, OK, which is where much of my family has lived since that generation. Not certain that she’s Choctaw (or any other tribe), but will ask my mom if she happens to have more info in her geneaology info. Please feel free to contact me at delanna@ou.edu if you’d like.