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Laura Catherine Turner Laura Catherine Turner

posted on January 19, 2011

Another of my greatgrand parents. He was married to Josie Florence Branam. They lived in Hamilton County, Tennessee. After 1900 they moved to Alabama. Their daughter was mty grandmother. I am mainly looking for his parents. Whatever info I can get will be helpful and very appreciated

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 20, 2011

no daughter’s name. no dates. common names again.

i don’t know if this is your family.

Household Members:
Name Age
William Hayes 59
Josephine Hayes 42
Edgar Hayes 27
Annie Hayes 19
Dorie Hayes 17
T C Hayes 8
[8 5/12]
Woodrow Hayes 6
[6 4/12]
Wilson Hayes 6
[6 4/12]
Elbert Hayes 4
[4 11/12]
Jesse Hayes 2
[2 4/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama; Roll: T625_25; Page: 6B; Enumeration District: 110; Image: 1003.

i’m going to stop here. there is not enough information to do a search.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname,

you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden

name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate,

your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone

passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government

for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate.

death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local

public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records

and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public

information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for

enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t

have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu

of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they

had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other

names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are

especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other

oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will

improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get

the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a

record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching

google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the

choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Laura Catherine Turner Laura Catherine Turner

posted on January 25, 2011

Josephine was incorrect. Her name was Josie Florence Branam Hayes. She mostly went by Florence. She did marry a William Hayes. Their children were
Carl
Maggie
Tom
William
Annie
Ruby Marie
Ruby Marie was my grandmother.
Maybe someone else is looking for the same people. You can pass this on if need be.
Thank you again for your help.
Laura

Melissa Melissa

posted on January 29, 2011

Hi my name is Melissa and I seen that you were looking for a William Hayes. I seen the last name ans I don’t know if my great-grand parents are any relation. But I was just giving it a try.My grand mothers side are Hayes’s also, my great- grand parents names are Robert and Evnice Hayes.I don’t know her maiden name but their daughter is my grand mother,Bucella Hayes who married Samuel Ater.I know that she has a brother who I don’t know anything about. So I hope that you might know any info that might be maybe helpful or not.

Thanks Melissa

Robert Edward Raye Hayes Robert Edward Raye Hayes

posted on July 1, 2011

Hello Melissa, My father just called me and asked if I could get an E-mail address to contact you. My father is Robert C. Hayes, and his grandfather and grandmother were Robert and Eunice Hayes. My father would like to contact you and help explain the Hayes family questions that you have. My E-mail is RobertRayeInUSA@yahoo.com. Thank You.