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Laura Catherine Turner Laura Catherine Turner

posted on January 19, 2011

I am looking for info on John Branam born about 1850 & his wife Elizabeth Rose born around 1854. They were my great great grand parents. They were from the Sale Creek, Hamilton county Tennessee area. Iknow they also lived near Soddy Daisy, Tennessee. I was told that Elizabeth also called Lizzie or Lily, was very special amongst her tribe. My mother use to say she was a “princess” Someone else in the family said she was a holy woman. Hope you can help.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 20, 2011

john branam b. 1850 m. elizabeth rose b. 1854, TN?
no children, no dates of death, places of death.

branam might be spelled variously. not sure of maiden name, if it is rose or rose is a middle name.

Tennessee Census, 1810-91
about John Branan
Name: John Branan
State: TN
County: Hamilton County
Township: Ed 66 Chattanooga
Year: 1890
Page: 002
Database: TN 1890 Veterans Schedule

American Civil War Soldiers
about John Branam
Name: John Branam
Side Served: Confederacy
State Served: Tennessee
Service Record: Enlisted as a Private.
Enlisted in Company E, 15th Cons Cavalry Regiment Tennessee.
Sources: 425

or this:
John Branam (First_Last)
Regiment Name 2 Tenn Inf
Side Union
Company A
Soldier’s Rank_In Pvt
Soldier’s Rank_Out Pvt
Alternate Name John/Branham
Notes
Film Number M392 roll 2
i think he would have been too young for this:
2nd Regiment, Tennessee Infantry

Organized at Camp Dick Robinson and Somerset, September 28, 1861. Attached to George H. Thomas Command, Army of the Ohio, to November, 1861. 12th Brigade, Army of the Ohio, to December, 1861. 12th Brigade, 1st Division, Army of the Ohio, to February, 1862. 24th Brigade, 7th Division, Army of the Ohio, to October, 1862. 3rd Brigade, District of West Virginia, Dept. of the Ohio, to November, 1862. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division (Centre), 14th Army Corps, Army of the Cumberland, to January, 1868. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, 14th Army Corps, to April, 1868. 2nd Brigade, District of Central Kentucky, Dept. of the Ohio, to June, 1863. 1st Brigade, 1st Division, 28rd Army Corps, Dept. of the Ohio, to August, 1863. 3rd Brigade, 4th Division, 23rd Army Corps, to November, 1863. 1st Brigade, 2nd Division, Cavalry Corps, Dept. of the Ohio, to April, 1864. 2nd Brigade, 4th Division, 23rd Army Corps, to February, 1865. 2nd Brigade, 4th Division, District of East Tennessee, to August, 1865.

this might be more likely:
15th Consolidated Regiment, Tennessee Cavalry

15th (Stewart’s-Logwood’s) Cavalry Regiment [also called 2nd Organization or 15th Consolidated] was assembled at Oxford, Mississippi, in February, 1864. It was organized by consolidating part of the 15th (Steewart’s) Tennessee Cavalry Regiment, Street’s Mississippi Cavalry Battalion, and the 16th Tennessee Cavalry Regiment. The unit served in R.V. Richardson’s and E.W. Rucker’s Brigade, skirmished in Mississippi and Georgia, then returned to Mississippi and fought at Harrisburg. Later it moved to Tennessee and saw action at Memphis, Franklin, and Nashville. Only 75 men came back from Hood’s operations, and in February, 1865, the regiment was ordered to Alabama where it surrendered in May. The field officers were Colonels Thomas H. Logwood and Francis M. Stewart, and Major Solomon G. Street.

http://www.itd.nps.gov/cwss/

the 1890 veterans schedule could tell you the unit.

3. MATTIE L.8 GANN (CALOWAY WILLIAM7, WESLEY6, THOMAS5, THOMAS4, ADAM CARTER3, SAMUEL2, JOHANNES1) was born July 28, 1878, and died October 05, 1945. She married GEORGE BRANUM, son of JOHN BRANAM and ELIZABETH ROSE. He was born May 01, 1877, and died February 06, 1941.

MATTIE L. GANN and GEORGE BRANUM buried in Soddy, TN

Children of MATTIE GANN and GEORGE BRANUM are:

8. i. CLAUDIA9 BRANUM.

ii. RALPH G. BRANUM, b. September 04, 1915; d. April 11, 1982.

Burial: Soddy, TN..Tombstone Patriot: TEC 5, US ARMY, WW II Source= tombstone
http://www.hctgs.org/Families/gann_wesley.htm

it’s that family but not where i expected to find them.

1880 United States Federal Census
about George Branam
Name: George Branam
Home in 1880: District 2, Meigs, Tennessee
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Tennessee
Relation to head-of-household: Son
Father’s name: John Branam
Father’s birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s name: Lizzie Branam
Mother’s birthplace: Tennessee
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: At Home
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane:

View image
Household Members:
Name Age
John Branam 28
Lizzie Branam 26
Joseph Branam 9
Mary Branam 8
Susan Branam 4
George Branam 2
Julia A. Branam 1
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: District 2, Meigs, Tennessee; Roll: 1272; Family History Film: 1255272; Page: 465D; Enumeration District: 82;

good thing i found george on that family tree. that’s how i find this family.
you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.

he’s a farmer, cannot read or write. living next door to william branam.
both lizzie and john were b. TN, parents b. TN

1870 United States Federal Census
about John Branam
Name: John Branam
Birth Year: abt 1848
Age in 1870: 22
Home in 1870: District 11 Subdivision 43, Hamilton, Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Male
Value of real estate: View image
Post Office: Long Savannah
Household Members:
Name Age
John Branam 22
Elizabeth Branam 17
Nancey Patter 17
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: District 11 Subdivision 43, Hamilton, Tennessee; Roll: M593_1532; Page: 613B; Image: 327; Family History Library Film: 553031.

nancy is a domestic servant. neither john nor elizabeth can read or write.
the place is called long savannah. he’s a farmer.

1900 United States Federal Census
about John Branam
Name: John Branam
Home in 1900: Civil District 13, Hamilton, Tennessee
[Hamilton, Tennessee]
Age: 50
Birth Date: Apr 1830
Birthplace: Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Mother’s Birthplace: Tennessee
Spouse’s name: Lizzie Branam
Marriage Year: 1868
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 32
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Branam 50
Lizzie Branam 47
Wesley Branam 14
Jim Branam 10
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Civil District 13, Hamilton, Tennessee; Roll: T623_1574; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 52.
they have been married 32 years. he’s a farmer, rents a farm.
wesley was b. july 1885, jim was b. oct. 1890. john b. april 1850. elizabeth no month 1853.
she had 11 children but only 8 survive.

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~tnhamilt/

if rose is her surname, this is the best match:
1860 United States Federal Census
about Elizabeth Rew
Name: Elizabeth Rew
[Elizabeth Rose]
Age in 1860: 9
Birth Year: abt 1851
Birthplace: Tennessee
Home in 1860: District 11, Hamilton, Tennessee
Gender: Female
Post Office: Sale Creek
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
J W Rew 35
Arabella Rew 35
Joseph Rew 13
Awagena Rew 11
Elizabeth Rew 9
Joshua Rew 7
John Rew 5
James Rew 3
Jackson Rew 10/12
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: District 11 Subdivision 43, Hamilton, Tennessee; Roll: M593_1532; Page: 613B; Image: 327; Family History Library Film: 553031.

U.S. IRS Tax Assessment Lists, 1862-1918
about John Brannan
Name: John Brannan
State: Tennessee
Tax Year: 1862
Roll Title: Gibson (part}, Giles, Greene, Grundy, Hamilton, Hickmun, Henry, Henderson, Haywood, Hawkins, and Hardin (part) counties
NARA Series: T227
NARA Roll: 3

i don’t know what natives were in the area. but if you read the history of the county, you will likely learn this.

use the accessgenealogy and look at the state natives there. it might give you some clues. states are listed on the left hand side.

http://www.tn.gov/tsla/Collections.htm

it appears that elizabeth might have come from hamilton county, but i don’t know where john came from. a death certificate would help.
maybe an obituary. see your local public library for this.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname,

you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden

name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate,

your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone

passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government

for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate.

death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary,

newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local

public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records

and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census

records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public

information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for

enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t

have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu

of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they

had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other

names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are

especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other

oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will

improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get

the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a

record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births,

marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching

google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized

tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the

choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Laura Catherine Turner Laura Catherine Turner

posted on January 20, 2011

Thank you so very much. I have some of this info already. You sent a lot I don’t have.

I did not know that John was in the civil war. I do know that we are somehow related to a Brig. Gen’l Joseph t. Branum.

John and Lizzie also had a daughter named Josie Florence born in 1883. She was m gratgrand mother.

Lizzie’s name on Josie’s birth certificate shows her maiden name as Rose.

I did find an 1860 showing John lived in Sale Creek, TN. Sale Creek is where Josie and her husband, Will Hayes were living when my grandmother Ruby Marie was born.

I have both her & Josie’s birth certificate.

I would love to have the Choctaw resource list

Again, thank you very much.

Laura Turner

Brenda franks Love Brenda franks Love

posted on February 22, 2011

I am looking for information re my grandmother. born in Oxford Mississippi. Nov 24 1889. died 1963 Houston Texas
Named Florence Lizzie Rose
She was deaf and at some point sent to the Texas School for the deaf where she met and married my grandfather, Marvin Henry Franks of Waterloo Alabama.
Her parents were from Tennessee. Don’t know their names or even if she had siblings. Mae was also an additional middle name

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on February 22, 2011

as i understand your post,
florence lizzie mae rose b. 11/24/1889 MS d. 1963 TX m. marvin henry franks b. AL

this post should actually have been on a thread of its own. that way people can match records with your family.

you could write for her social security application, since she passed away after it came into effect 1/1/1937. her social security # might be on her death certificate. you have a rather exact date of birth, so you must have a document.

when there are several names, it is very helpful to have the childrens’ names and birthdates.

1910 United States Federal Census
about Marvin Franks
Name: Marvin Franks
Age in 1910: 23
Estimated Birth Year: 1887
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Hired Hand
Father’s Birth Place: Alabama
Mother’s Birth Place: Alabama
Home in 1910: Justice Precinct 7, Grimes, Texas
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno H Wilson 51
Clarry Wilson 42
Marvin Franks 23
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Justice Precinct 7, Grimes, Texas; Roll: T624_1555; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0038; Image: 1112; FHL Number: 1375568.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Marvin N Franke
Name: Marvin N Franke
[Marien H Franks]
Home in 1920: Bedias, Grimes, Texas
Age: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Alabama
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s Name: Florence Franke
Father’s Birth Place: Alabama
Mother’s Birth Place: Alabama
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Marvin N Franke 33
Florence Franke 23
George Franke 5
Maude Franke 2 3/12
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Bedias, Grimes, Texas; Roll: T625_1806; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 27; Image: 1125.
Texas Death Index, 1903-2000
about Marvin Henry Franks
Name: Marvin Henry Franks
Death Date: 10 Apr 1959
Death County: Grimes
Certificate: 20705
this might be him.

1930 United States Federal Census
about Florence Franks
Name: Florence Franks
Home in 1930: Precinct 7, Grimes, Texas
View Map
Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse’s Name: Morris H Franks
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Morris H Franks 43
Florence Franks 44
George M Franks 15
Clara M Franks 12
John W Franks 7
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Precinct 7, Grimes, Texas; Roll: 2334; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 16; Image: 488.0.
you can correct the name index for ancestry.com so that others can find your family.
her husband was a cobbler in a shoe shop.

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Marvin Henry Franks
Name: Marvin Henry Franks
County: Grimes
State: Texas
Birth Date: 8 Jul 1885
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1953404
DraftBoard: 0

this card is available on ancestry.com.
it says that he was deaf and dumb.

(www.tdh.state.tx.us) or write to:

Texas Department of Health, Bureau of Vital Statistics
P. O. Box 12040
Austin, TX 78711-2040
(512) 458-7111

i can’t find a good record for her. i think you will have to look at the childrens’ birth certificates and her obituary. you can look for her obituary through interlibrary loan. see your local public library for that.

her parents’ names will be on her social security application also. they may be on her death certificate too.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto