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Gloria Coleman Parker Gloria Coleman Parker

posted on January 6, 2011 and updated on January 6, 2011

My GGrandfather was born James Wiley Chisholm born1890 in alabama died 1997 in mississppi, his mother a white woman named Martha(Mattie) A. Parker born in clay alabama in1865,died cullman alabama nov 22 1948 (she died Martha Coleman). The story I grew up with is James Wiley’s dad left (never to be heard from again) and after a few years Martha remarried a white man when James Wiley was around 3 this mans name was Coleman he gave James his last name at that time. James Wiley ran away from the Colemans around the age of 12. By then he had no idea about his real father or his family. He just remembered what his last name used to be.
so I have no idea where to start, except here… I know that somewhere down the line some of my cousins have found out something because they talked about being on the rez and talking to people, but the information wasn’t shared with the rest of the family. HELP

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 8, 2011

this is the website of the choctaw tribe in oklahoma. there is a mississippi choctaw website, link in this email. you might also look at the MOWA tribe.

martha a. parker b. 11/22/1864 randolph, AL d. 11/22/1948 AL m1. chisholm? m2. John Thomas Coleman b: 21 MAR 1859 in AL now, Clay, Alabama, USA
james wiley chisholm (early records coleman?) b. 10/2/1890 AL d. 1997 MS

how did he get the surname chisholm?

it might help to get a copy of martha/mattie’s social security application and james wiley chisholm’s social security application as they may have known more than you do about this. anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 filed a social security application when it came into effect and had to file a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate to show proof of age. when you request a copy of a birth certificate that may have been filed before 1929 (when vital records were mandated to be kept by states/counties), there might have been a delayed birth certificate filed well after the birth. so you have to request both documents because they might not have recorded the birth in the year born and so they would have to look through later dates to see if a delayed birth certificate was filed later.

going through the native records on accessgenealogy might also be a good idea. location, tribe, databases and rolls, census records for the reservations might be helpful.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/

there are several records of this family on rootsweb’s worldconnect.
Cathy Martin Family File 2009-04-13
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  1. ID: I09855
  2. Name: Martha Antney Parker 1 2 3 4 5
  3. Sex: F
  4. Birth: 22 NOV 1864 in , Randolph, Alabama, USA 1 2 3 4
  5. Residence: 1920 Kings, Cullman, Alabama 4
  6. Death: 22 NOV 1948 in , Cullman, Alabama, USA
  7. Residence: 1930 Cullman, Cullman, Alabama 3
  8. Residence: 1880 Wesobulga, Clay, Alabama, United States 2
  9. Residence: 1920 Kirby, Marshall, Alabama
  10. Residence: 1900 Precinct 6 Ashland (East Part Excl. Ashland Town), Clay, Alabama 1

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1 possible matches found on Ancestry.com Ancestry.com

Father: Aaron Parker b: 15 DEC 1829 in , Carroll, Georgia, USA
Mother: Mary Sparks b: 06 MAY 1833 in , Newton, Georgia, USA

Marriage 1 John Thomas Coleman b: 21 MAR 1859 in AL now, Clay, Alabama, USA

  • Married: 16 SEP 1880 in , Clay, Alabama, USA
  • Divorced: ? in ?*Data is already there*
  • Divorced: ? in ?

Children

1. Has No Children Aaron B Coleman b: AUG 1888 in Alabama 2. Has No Children Henry R Coleman b: 11 MAR 1884 in , Clay, Alabama, USA 3. Has No Children Daniel J Coleman b: MAY 1886 in Alabama 4. Has No Children John Wilburn Coleman 5. Has No Children Charles M Coleman b: 08 JAN 1899 in , Clay, Alabama, USA 6. Has No Children Mary A Coleman 7. Has No Children Willis L Coleman 8. Has No Children Garfield Coleman b: DEC 1882 in Alabama 9. Has No Children Nancy Briller Coleman b: 05 AUG 1881 10. Has No Children James W Coleman b: 02 OCT 1890 in Alabama 11. Has No Children A V Coleman b: 24 JAN 1902 in , Clay, Alabama, USA 12. Has No Children Lola Coleman b: 1904 in , , Alabama, USA 13. Has No Children Willis D Coleman b: 11 MAY 1895 in , Clay, Alabama, USA

you should contact all of them and exchange information about records. cousins are usually very happy to meet cousins.

this is in the notes for this particular record:
Sources:

1. Author: Ancestry.com Title: 1900 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication – Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2004.Original data – United States of America, Bureau o; Page: Year: 1900; Census Place: Ashland, Clay, Alabama; Roll: ; Page: ; Enumeration District: . Text: Birth date: May 1865Birth place: AlabamaMarriage date: 1881Marriage place: Residence date: 1900Residence place: Precinct 6 Ashland (East Part Excl. Ashland Town), Clay, Alabama Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=1900usfedcen&h=36018142&ti=0&indiv=try&gss=pt 2. Author: Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Title: 1880 United States Federal Census Publication: Name: Online publication – Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2005. 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of; Page: Year: 1880; Census Place: Wesobulga, Clay, Alabama; Roll: T9_7; Family History Film: 125400 Text: Birth date: abt 1863Birth place: AlabamaResidence date: 1880Residence place: Wesobulga, Clay, Alabama, United States

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  1. ID: I06492
  2. Name: John Thomas Coleman 1 2 3 4
  3. Sex: M
  4. Birth: 21 MAR 1859 in AL now, Clay, Alabama, USA 1 2 3
  5. Residence: 1920 Kings, Cullman, Alabama 3
  6. Death: 11 JUN 1931 in , Cullman, Alabama, USA
  7. Residence: 1930 Cullman, Cullman, Alabama 2
  8. Residence: 1900 Precinct 6 Ashland (East Part Excl. Ashland Town), Clay, Alabama 1

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4 possible matches found on Ancestry.com Ancestry.com

Father: Isaac Benjamin Coleman b: 1832 in , Henry, Georgia, USA
Mother: Nancy C Pullin b: 11 MAY 1833 in In-ga, Sagaing, Myanmar

Marriage 1 Martha Antney Parker b: 22 NOV 1864 in , Randolph, Alabama, USA

so you can see that you will need to write for several records.
http://vitalrec.com/al.html#State

http://vitalrec.com/ms.html

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about James W Coleman
Name: James W Coleman
County: Cullman
State: Alabama
Birthplace: Alabama;United States of America
Birth Date: 2 Oct 1890
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1509376
DraftBoard: 0
this card is available for printing or download on ancestry.com
he says he was b. ashland, AL
he’s a farmer in cullman, and he says he is broke down in nerves.
Household Members:
Name Age
John T Coleman 41
Martha A Coleman 35
Garfield Coleman 17
Daniel J Coleman 14
Aaron B Coleman 11
James W Coleman 9
John W Coleman 9
Willis L Coleman 5
Mary A Coleman 3
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Ashland, Clay, Alabama; Roll: T623_8; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 109.

since you haven’t given the spouse name or location in 1910-1930, i’m having trouble with this.

Household Members:
Name Age
J T Coleman 50
Mattie Coleman 47
D J Coleman 23
A B Coleman 21
Walter Coleman 19
Wilburn Coleman 16
D Coleman 14
Ada Coleman 12
A V Coleman 8
Lola Coleman 5
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Ashland, Clay, Alabama; Roll: T624_7; Page: 11B; Enumeration District: 43; Image: 243.
Household Members:
Name Age
Jim Coleman 40
Marry Coleman 29
Wiley Coleman 13
William Coleman 11
J C Coleman 8
Earl Coleman 4
Mary Francis Coleman 3
Mable Merrie Coleman 1
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Clarendon, Monroe, Arkansas; Roll: 83; Page: 15B; Enumeration District: 7; Image: 857.0.

the children were b. MS.
Household Members:
Name Age
Jim Coleman 31
Mary Coleman 18
Wiley Coleman 3
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Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Tupelo, Lee, Mississippi; Roll: T625_884; Page: 11A; Enumeration District: 28; Image: 847.
you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.

you can get a copy of an obituary through your local public library’s interlibrary loan program.

there may be newspaper mentions also. see your local library for that too.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto