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My Great grandmother Fillmore

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posted on January 5, 2011

I’m just wondering if there is a way to find birth certificates for family born in Choctaw. My great grandmother was born in Choctaw Nation in OK in 1883. The family moved there from KY for some reason and then moved back to KY. Any leads would be appreciated. Her name was Lillie Mae Fillmore. Parents were Samuel Fillmore and Christian Addison.

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 5, 2011

presumably your great grandmother was married, so she only had a fillmore name for a short period of time from 1900. since you have not given her childrens’ names, birthdates, birthplaces, nor her spouse’s name, i doubt that i can help you much. but i can tell you how you might be able to find it. if she was alive 1/1/1937, she would have filed a social security application and probably submitted a delayed birth certificate to show proof of age. you might be able to find out more where she was born in an obituary or a death certificate. you should get a copy of her marriage license also.

this isn’t her, is it?
Household Members:
Name Age
James Worrell 71
Margaret A Worrell 60
Eliza A Filmore 18
Lillie B Filmore 16
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Cimarron, Payne, Oklahoma; Roll: T623_1341; Page: 24A; Enumeration District: 181.

1900 United States Federal Census
about Sam Fillmore
Name: Sam Fillmore
Home in 1900: Cromwell, Ohio, Kentucky
[Ohio, Kentucky]
Age: 52
Birth Date: Sep 1847
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father’s Birthplace: England
Mother’s Birthplace: England
Spouse’s name: Christian Fillmore
Marriage Year: 1875
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 25
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Sam Fillmore 52
Christian Fillmore 43
Mary E Fillmore 11
Frances B Fillmore 9
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Cromwell, Ohio, Kentucky; Roll: T623_546; Page: 26A; Enumeration District: 105.
sam was b. in england and christian was b. PA.
so i don’t know how you get a choctaw connection out of that. there would have been VERY FEW choctaw up in PA at this time. the choctaw were a southeastern tribe.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto