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Brenda Brenda

posted on July 10, 2010

Halito everyone,
I’m looking for any information on Nelson family members.
My grandfather Joseph E. Nelson, died 1938, his mother Harriett and father Soloman (some records spell it as Salomon),
some of his siblings were Mary, William. 1920 and 1930 census has them living in Bryan Co, OK. He was living in Mead, OK when he died. Any info would be greatly appreciated

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 10, 2010

soloman nelson m. harriett>joseph e. nelson b. 7/1//1898 OK d. 1938 location unknown m. emma ?

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Township 6, Choctaw Nation, Indian Territory; Roll T623_1853; Enumeration District: 184.
’township 6 south range 9 east
page 4b

Dawes Card Information

tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Armstrong Basie 0 F 3399 P
Choctaw Armstrong Moffitt 0 M 3399 P
Choctaw Nelson Joe 0 M 3399 P
Choctaw Nelson Liza A 0 F 3399 P
Choctaw Nelson John Garrett 1 M FULL 3399 NR ROBERTA BB
Choctaw Nelson Joseph E Jr 1 M FULL 3399 NR ROBERTA BB
Choctaw Nelson Simon J 6 M FULL 3399 NR ROBERTA BB
Choctaw Nelson Isaac 9 M FULL 3399 NR ROBERTA BB
Choctaw Nelson Harriet 24 F FULL 3399 NR ROBERTA BB
Choctaw Nelson Solomon 28 M FULL 3399 NR ROBERTA BB
bb=by blood
p-parent

it appears that harriet’s name might have been harriet armstrong.
they’ve been married 10 years at the time of the 1900 census.

they were listed as fullblood choctaw, so there might be a probate record for them.

btw, this death would have been after social security went into effect, so it is likely that he had applied and submitted a delayed birth certificate as proof of age. so you can try to get copies of those documents from social security and the state where he was born. you see a census record but don’t give a birth year or location.

maybe this is him?

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Joseph E Nelson
Name: Joseph E Nelson
County: Bryan
State: Oklahoma
Birth Date: 11 Jul 1898
Race: Indian (Native American)
FHL Roll Number: 1851608
DraftBoard: 0

Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Colbert, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll 1894; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 19; Image: 328.0.

Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Speairs, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll T625_1454; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 18; Image: 158.

Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Township 8, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll T624_1244; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 28; Image: 335.

these books could be available through interlibrary loan, see your local public library for that.
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okbryan/bcha.html
a good resource:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~okbryan/

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather thann less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Brenda Brenda

posted on July 15, 2010

Suzanne,
Thank you very much for the info. I have found them on the Dawes rolls, but couldn’t find anything more than Census records and Dawes records. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it.
Any info on WWI records? I have Joseph’s draft registration card For 1917.

Brenda Ramsey

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on July 15, 2010

contact NARA about any other possible military records. http://www.nara.gov where was joseph buried? as a veteran? did he get a military pension? was he injured in the war?

if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, you can get a copy of their social security application. when people applied for social security, they often submitted delayed birth certificates as proof of age. you should try to get a copy of that for your ancestor.

you should get a copy of the enrollment application and census card and testimony. possible sources for this: http://www.nara.gov fort worth office, the tribe
the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

or oklahoma historical society:

http://www.okhistory.org/

this might be an interview with solomon nelson
http://www.choctawnation.com/history/people/original-enrollees/nelson-solomon/

John Anthony Nelson John Anthony Nelson

posted on July 16, 2010 and updated on July 20, 2010

My name is John Anthony Nelson. Just saw the postings about Nelson family members. My father was John Henry Nelson, grandfather was Simon Nelson, great grandparents Solomon (a Baptist Missionary) & Harriett, great-great grandfather was Joseph Nelson (he was born in Mississippi) … Very interested in contacting other Nelson family members… My grandparents had 12 children – 9 girls & 3 boys. My father John Henry was the youngest. Out of the 3 boys I am the only male Nelson offspring. I have one son, Kevin Alan Nelson, 25, works @ Choctaw casino. My home phone is 580-924-4714. Email is littlebull2001@yahoo.com. Feel free to contact me and I will certainly share any family info. I have..

John Anthony Nelson John Anthony Nelson

posted on July 16, 2010 and updated on July 20, 2010

Great grandfather was Solomon Nelson – Simon was my grandfather. Simon & my grandmother Ida are buried @ Highland cemetary Durant, OK. Cannot locate Solomon’s specific burial place, but I did find Harriet his wife and MT Nelson, one of their sons – also @ Highland cemetary @ lot # 353.

Cerah Cerah

posted on October 28, 2010

Brenda,

My husband’s grandfather was also Joseph E. Nelson, son of Solomon and Harriet Nelson. His mother’s name was Ella, a daughter of Joseph. Can you tell me more about how you are connected to Joseph? I find this interesting because they are unaware of any siblings.

Look forward to hearing from you,
Cerah

John Anthony Nelson John Anthony Nelson

posted on October 28, 2010

Joseph Nelson was my great -great grandfather. I will share what info. I can about the Nelson family tree. Can reach me at 580-924-4714. Hope to hear from you.

Brenda Brenda

posted on November 6, 2010

Cerah,
Sorry not to have replied before now. I haven’t checked for responses in a while. My Mother’s name was Martha Lucille Nelson. She was born in 1936 and had 2 sisters named Ella and Ruby who were older than she was. They also had a 1/2 brother named Wayne who was older than them. Their mother was Ruby who Joseph was married to at the time he died in 1938. Joseph is supposedly buried at Highland cemetary in Durant, OK. He had a roll number (9708) as well as his brothers/sister and parents.
I understand that Ella died many years ago and from what I remember she had 2 sons and they lived in St. Joseph, Mo.
Their sister Ruby worked for the goverment and is retired living in Chandler, AZ last I heard.
Do you think they are all related to your Joseph Nelson.

Brenda Brenda

posted on November 6, 2010

Cerah,
My email is
dulcimerplayer@att.net
if you’d like to email me. I’d love to hear more about your Nelsons too.

Penny Penny

posted on November 18, 2010

John Anthony Nelson,
Did your Simon Nelson go by the name of Sam? I have a Sam Nelson married to my grandpa’s sister Ida Hathaway Anderson in my family tree. She was born 1894 in Arkansas and died 1983 in Durant. I am pretty sure that she is buried at Highland Cemetery also. Heard something about a house fire that killed one or two of her children. I don’t have any other info about Sam other than that he was born about 1894.

John Anthony Nelson John Anthony Nelson

posted on January 22, 2011

I haven’t been on here for awhile either. Yes, Ida Anderson-Nelson was my biological grandomther. She did die in 1983, buried @ Highland Cemetery and yes, one of my uncles -Solomon (Hookey) Nelson – died in that house fire when I was 8 years old. Simon died before I was born but yes, from what I know he went by Sam. I do have some photos one of my aunt’s gave me recently. My email is littlebull2001@yahoo.com. Be glad to share what I have – hope to hear from you!

Tina Kekoolani Gilman Tina Kekoolani Gilman

posted on February 22, 2011

Hello lost families i am TIna Kekoolani gilman, my great grandfather is john anthony nelson he is my 3ggg grandpa and i would like to get to know my families , i have seen all my families here on oahu, we just had a reunion, and your names come out so much as i know on the scroll i have, if you have any info please give me a call at 808-695-0404 i appreciate this. I would like to see who is my great grandma and papa be cause i know he is from new orleans. his parents is a chu chu tribe.

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Crystal Phillips Crystal Phillips

posted on July 20, 2011

Wondering if these nelsons maybe related
My great grandmother maiden name Margaret Mcmillian and on
her social security death index record under Margaret Rombaoa her mother maiden name nelson.
her son Ralph leo Phillips is my grandfather. I have been trying for years to trace this side of my family any help? maybe related or maybe you have other nelson lines you have info on? thanks crystal
phillips7996@yahoo.com