narcissus wilson but no birthdate, no location, no spouse, not sure of married name, no date or place of death.
not sure of the relationship to noel or starlie peeler wilson.
this is how you do genealogy: start with what you know, gather your documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license. then you can start on your grandparents. i find it is easiest to start with the person’s death and work backward to their birth. death events: death certificate, cemetery record, obituary. there might be newspaper mentions about military service, marriage, birth of children or other events. you can usually access newspapers through your local public library and the interlibrary loan program.
if you get stuck on someone and they passed away after 1/1/1937, you can ask for their social security application. many times, people got a delayed birth certificate to show proof of age. when you request the birth certificate of someone born before 1929, also request that they check to see if there was a delayed birth certificate filed.
starlie’s obituary might be here:
Starlia “Starlie” (Peeler) Wilson, a former longtime Lane area resident, passed away Wednesday,
March 7, 2001 at the Medical Center of Southeastern Oklahoma in Durant, Bryan County Oklahoma.
Starlie died at the age of 96 years, 2 months, and 2 days. She was born on March 5, 1905 at Quinton,
(Indian Territory) Oklahoma to William Arthur and Nanna Lou (Pierson) Peeler. Starlie attended schools
at Grassy Lake and Mary’s Chapel in Atoka County, Oklahoma. She was a longtime member of the Lane
Baptist Church. Starlia “Starlie” Peeler and Noel J. Wilson were married July 2, 1922 in the Harmony
community, Atoka County, Oklahoma. Starlie worked at the U.S. Naval ammunition base during WWII
and she was a housewife and homemaker. She loved to garden and raise flowers. She enjoyed quilting
and arts and crafts.
Starlia “Starlie” (Peeler) Wilson was survived by :
Her six children, Edith Jewell Soester and husband Howard, formerly of Emory, Texas; G.E. “Peno”
Wilson of Tushka, Atoka County, Oklahoma; Ferman Wilson of Centerpoint, Atoka County, Oklahoma;
Ruth Morris of Durant, Bryan County, Oklahoma; Eloise Bingham and husband Joe of Bartlesville,
Oklahoma; and Butch Wilson and Wife Maxine of Stringtown, Atoka County, Oklahoma.
Thirty-three Grandchildren, fifty-six Great-Grandchildren, and thirty Great-Great-Grandchildren.
One Brother Ed Peeler and wife Sally of Lane, Atoka County, Oklahoma.
Three Sisters, Ina Lane of Ardmore, Carter County, Oklahoma; Bernice Hopson of Atoka, Atoka County,
Oklahoma; and Mary Cheeseman of Irving, Dallas County, Texas.
Her special friend, caregiver, and domino buddy, Frances Farrell of Durant, Bryan County, Oklahoma.
Along with numerous Nieces, Nephews, other relatives and many dear and loved friends.
Starlia “Starlie” (Peeler) Wilson was preceded in death by her parents William and Nanna Peeler; her
Husband Noel Wilson on January 24, 1994; three sons, Eugene, Aubrey, and James Wilson; one
daughter, Marjorie Nadean Warford; one grandson; four brothers, Tom, Curtis, James, and Adrian
Peeler; four Sisters Beulah Lane, Leona Strang, Della Mae Yates, and Nina Peeler.
Funeral services for Starlia “Starlie” (Peeler) Wilson were Saturday, March 10, 2001 at 2:00 P.M. at
Brown’s Funeral Chapel in Atoka, Atoka County, Oklahoma with Rev. Bob Johnson officiating and Rev.
Harry Boydston assisting. The casketbearers were her grandsons Buck Wilson, Tony Bingham, Joe
Wilson, Ronnie Warford, Michael Bingham, David Wilson, Emmett Wilson. The honorary casketbearers
were Curtis Parham, Dennis Courtney, J.D. Mcginty, Bill Pasquali, Leon Yates, Bill Mullen, Billy
Pierce, and Ernie Dean. Brown’s Funeral Services, Atoka, Atoka County, Oklahoma handled funeral
arrangements. Starlie was laid to rest in the Butler Cemetery, Bentley, Atoka County, Oklahoma.
Noel James Wilson
____ – 24 JAN 1994
Family 1 : Starlia “Starlie” Peeler
- MARRIAGE: 2 JUL 1922, Harmony, Atoka County, Oklahoma
1. Eugene Wilson
2. Aubrey Wilson
3. James Wilson
4. +Marjorie Nadean Wilson
5. Edith Jewell Wilson
6. G.E. “Peno” Wilson
7. Ferman Wilson
8. Ruth Wilson
9. +Eloise Wilson
10. Butch Wilson
buried in the butler cemetery:
Wilson, Noel J. h/o Starlie (Peeler) Wilson -Wed: July 2, 1922 S/o S. W. and Narcissa (Jones) Wilson
notice of marriage
(this should not substitute for the marriage license)
starlie obit with pic from the funeral home
it seems that narcissa jones married a wilson.
1930 United States Federal Census
about Neal J Wilson
Name: Neal J Wilson
Home in 1930: Bentley, Atoka, Oklahoma
Estimated birth year: abt 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse’s name: Starlie Wilson
Age at first marriage:
Neighbors: View others on page
Neal J Wilson 25
Starlie Wilson 25
Eugene Wilson 6
Ausby Wilson 5
Margares N Wilson 3
Edith J Wilson 1 4/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Bentley, Atoka, Oklahoma; Roll: 1892; Page: 8A; Enumeration District: 2; Image: 1071.0.
you can correct the ancestry name index so that others can find your family.
i can’t seem to find a record of noel or his mother before this date. maybe he went by another name. maybe his mother went by another name. in any case, i don’t have enough clues.
i would recommend that you look at his social security application so you can get more clues. his death certificate and obituary might be helpful.
it would seem that her enrollment number might be 11413, narcissa jones, daughter of noel jones and mary jones.
i see her spouse was “s. w.” jones
Dawes Card Information
tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Jones Mary 0 F 4080 P
Choctaw Jones Solomon 0 M 4080 P
Choctaw Jones Edward 12 M FULL 4080 NR ATOKA BB
Choctaw Jones Israel 19 M FULL 4080 NR ATOKA BB
Choctaw Jones Noel 59 M FULL 4080 NR ATOKA BB
Choctaw Wilson S W 0 M 4080 P
Choctaw Wilson Clarance Monroe 1 M 1/2 4080 NR ATOKA BB
Choctaw Wilson Walter Green 1 M 1/2 4080 NR ATOKA BB
Choctaw Wilson Narcissa 14 F FULL 4080 NR ATOKA BB
i got this from the rootsweb website, social security death index
WILSON, NOEL J 17 Nov 1904 15 Jan 1994 89 74525 (Atoka, Atoka, OK) (none specified) Oklahoma 448-01-6666
may be silas for the first name.
CHOCTAW NATION MARRIAGES
1890 – 1907
Transcribed by MARY TURNER KINARD
COPYRIGHT 27 APR 1992 Mary Kinard
Printed here with the Permission of J.D. Kinard and family for your personal use
NOT TO BE COPIES FOR USE IN ANY COLLECTION FOR PROFIT OR DISPLAY
FIVE FEDERAL COURTHOUSES IN CHOCTAW NATION
AT – ATOKA, ATOKA CO. OK, get copy of marriage from LDS Library
BR – DURANT, BRYAN CO. OK. get copy of marriage from Durant
Lf – POTEAU, LEFLORE CO. OK get copy of marriage from Poteau
Mc – McALESTER, PITSBURY CO. OK get copy of marriage from Indian Archives OKC
WIL – WILBURTON, LATIMER CO. OK you may be able to get copy from Muskogee Ok
un – NOT USED
nr – NO RETURN
er – ERROR
col – COLORED
GROOM AGE BRIDE AGE DATE RESIDENCE BOOK©PAGE
WILSON, S W 33 JONES, CISSY 16 6 DEC 1899 ATOKA AT1©310©620
this is about noel jones, narcissus’ father.
Wilson, Silas William “Turkey”
Birth : 25 JUL 1866 Warren County, Missouri
Death : 18 JUN 1953 San Angelo, Tom Green County, Texas
someone really needs to tie all these people and facts together. maybe it’s you.
i am wondering if noel was a brother to haley wilson. haley wilson was the father of ellen wilson who married frederick smallfield (bavaria, germany immigrant who ran the boggy depot pony express).. ellen and frederick’s daughter, minnie smallfield, married eli j. mcdonald. ellen was my late husband’s great grandmother.
this was his family:
Dawes Card Information
tribe last first middle age sex blood card roll misc type
Choctaw Belt Malinda 23 F 3/16 4017 NR STRINGTOWN BB
Choctaw McDonald William 0 M 4017 P
Choctaw McDonald Eli Jackson 1 M 3/32 4017 NR STRINGTOWN BB
Choctaw Smallfield Fred 0 M 4017 P
Choctaw Smallfield John 13 M 3/16 4017 NR STRINGTOWN BB
Choctaw Smallfield Ellen 46 F 3/8 4017 NR STRINGTOWN BB
Choctaw Wilson Haley 0 M 4017 P
Choctaw Wilson Malinda 0 F 4017 P
you will want the enrollment application, the census card, and the testimony of your family. if your family happens to tie into his family, then you might have other information that might give you more clues. i have not traced his family back further. ellen was listed as 3/8 but this is because some of the relatives that she submitted could not be proven to be choctaw, so she did not get credit for their blood quantum. i think she was really 3/4 choctaw. i don’t know which parent had the difficulty with their tribal affiliation, haley or malinda. since i don’t know more about them, i still don’t have an opinion.
genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.
start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have sumitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times. the census records up to 1930 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed. the 1940 census will be public information in 2012.
first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.
the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.
2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: firstname.lastname@example.org
other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html
some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.
types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.
Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.
always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.
check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.
if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.
this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
good advice about native research:
if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.
i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, email@example.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.
i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.
suzanne hamlet shatto