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Lonnie J Brown

anthony scott gartman anthony scott gartman

posted on December 5, 2010 and updated on December 5, 2010

my grandfather lonnie J Brown,was born in south louisiana in 1916.He was born at home,His father was Thomas brown a full blooded choctaw his mother was nancy matilda basco-brown.his father was adopted with several other children by a family known as the browns my grandmother tells me.My grandfather does not have certificate of birth or a role number for himself the only proof of his birth was burned in a house fire.if any one has any info that would be nice.I would love to know my heritage and would love to see my grandfathers culture.its been eating at me since i was 8 years old.he died in 1984 and left very little information at all.anything would help…..thanks

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on December 6, 2010

thomas brown
m. nancy matilda basco

lonnie j. brown b. 1916 LA d. 1984 place unknown

as you know, these are very common names. as far as proof of birth, you can probably get something like a birth certificate or delayed birth certificate that was filed when social security came into effect 1/1/1937. since these people may have lived in LA, you should look at the jena choctaw tribe and the mississippi choctaw tribe most closely. links to those tribes are in this post.

it sounds as if the brown surname was an adopted surname or a foster family surname. if so, you will have to try to discover the biological name.

i would start at the time period closest to now, with the death certificate, obituary and/or cemetery record. you can get the death certificate from the state where he passed away. try the cemetery record too, if you know where he was buried. you might also look at the obituary. see your local public library for access to the obituary through the interlibrary loan program. tell them you are doing a genealogy search and would appreciate the date and page number as well as the obituary.

since you don’t know if your grandfather knew his biological parents’ names, you might also get a copy of his social security application. this will have dates and locations and relatives names on it.

you will want a copy of his marriage license and birth certificate. any entity that issued a birth certificate would have a copy of it. while his copy might have burned, the government copies are likely to still exist.

could this be your relative?
1920 United States Federal Census
about Lonnie J Brown
Name: Lonnie J Brown
Home in 1920: Police Jury Ward 2, La Salle, Louisiana
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1906
Birthplace: Louisiana
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s name: Dellewon Brown
Father’s Birth Place: Louisiana
Mother’s Birth Place: Louisiana
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Dellewon Brown 42
Lottie Brown 16
Lonnie J Brown 14
Daisey Brown 12
Hellen Brown 10
Millard Brown 8
Violet Brown 2 4/12
Tetom Brown 48
Baker S Brown 36
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Police Jury Ward 2, La Salle, Louisiana; Roll: T625_616; Page: 17B; Enumeration District: 27; Image: 441.
dellowon is the father, b. AL, parents b. AL
so you might also take a look at the MOWA tribe, link in this post.
dellowon is a farmer.
lonnie’s mother was b. LA and lonnie was in school at that time.
you can make a name correction on ancestry so that others can find your family.

i am not finding a really good match and that’s probably because you need some documents to help you.

then there’s this record:
Social Security Death Index
about Lonnie J. Brown
Name: Lonnie J. Brown
SSN: 437-03-1924
Born: 30 Oct 1916
Died: 22 Apr 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: Louisiana (Before 1951)

U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946
about Lonnie J Brown
Name: Lonnie J Brown
Birth Year: 1916
Race: White, Citizen (White)
Nativity State or Country: Louisiana
State of Residence: Louisiana
County or City: Caddo

Enlistment Date: 1 Jul 1942
Enlistment State: Louisiana
Enlistment City: Camp Livingston
Branch: Branch Immaterial – Warrant Officers, USA
Branch Code: Branch Immaterial – Warrant Officers, USA
Grade: Private
Grade Code: Private
Term of Enlistment: Enlistment for the duration of the War or other emergency, plus six months, subject to the discretion of the President or otherwise according to law
Component: Selectees (Enlisted Men)
Source: National Guard in Federal Service, after 3 months of Discharge

Education: Grammar school
Civil Occupation: Fishermen and oystermen
Marital Status: Married
Height: 70
Weight: 140

that’s what i would do. start with what you know, collect documentation, then go backward in time to the next generation.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

other choctaw tribes: http://www.aaanativearts.com/choctaw-indians/index.html

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto