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Dianne75225 Dianne75225

posted on May 15, 2014

Fannie was my aunt. I am told she had an indian number but have not been able to locate it. Her maiden name was Bosarge. She lived in Hugo, OK most of her life and is buried at Springs Chapel Cemetary in Hugo. If anyone knew Fannie or can help me get her number I would appreciate your help very much. Thanks

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 15, 2014

you should contact the tribe directly.

no spouse name, no dates in your post. and there is more than one person with this name.

maybe this is your relative:
Texas Birth Index, 1903-1997 about Fannie Bosarge
Name: Fannie Bosarge
Date of Birth: 11 May 1911
Birth County: Lamar
Certificate Number: 21872
Roll Number: 1911_0002

this is a birth record from texas. the roll# is a birth record #, not a tribal #.

this is from an family tree. you should contact anyone who posts about your family, trade information and sources.

fannie bosarge
Birth 11 May 1911 in Powderly, Lamar, Texas, USA
Death in hugo chactaw oklahoma

so i must have guessed right about the correct fannie bosarge records.

she was born in texas and not in oklahoma, so it is unlikely she was a member of a tribe in oklahoma. the choctaw tribe of oklahoma enrolled members 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. other tribes may have enrolled at other times. location is a major factor in tribal affiliation.

Walter Bosarge
Birth about 1883 in Arkansas, USA
Death 9 Nov 1947 in Lamar County, Texas, USA

frankie viola lee
Birth Sep 1892 in Louisiana
Death october 8 1964 in Houston, Harris, T

there is a jena choctaw tribe in louisiana. i don’t know about their membership requirements.

frankie viola lee
Birth Sep 1892 in Louisiana
Death october 8 1964 in Houston, Harris, T memorial page:
Frankie Viola Ross / Lee Bosarge
Birth: Sep., 1883
Louisiana, USA
Death: Oct., 1964
Harris County
Texas, USA

My Grandmother was born a Ross adopted by the Harry F. Lee family of Lamar County, Tx. her heritage is unknown. She married Walter Bosarge on March 7th,1910 in Lamar Country Texas. Their children were:
Harrie,Paul,Pauline,Buster,Carl,Eva,Fannie,Franklin(Pete).Walter Jr. and Bill. Shown in photo Grandma Frankie ,her Daughter Fannie Bosarge and Fannie’s stepson.

Family links:
Walter Bosarge (1881 – 1947)

Children: Fannie Lee Bosarge Saffel (1911 – 1988)* Harrie Bosarge Hays (1912 – 1937)* Pauline Bosarge (1913 – 1915)* Paul Bosarge (1913 – 1976)* Buster Brown Bosarge (1917 – 1984)* Carl Edwin Bosarge (1920 – 1997)* Walter Bosarge (1929 – 1932)* Franklin Delano Bosarge (1933 – 1991)*

*Calculated relationship

Red Hill Cemetery
Lamar County
Texas, USA

Created by: Judie Bosarge Gillaspy
Record added: Nov 26, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 81041272 for walter bosarge, sr.
Birth: Sep. 2, 1881, USA
Death: 1947, USA

This is my grandfather, He was married to Frankie Viola Lee Bosarge. They had 10 children,4 girls Harrie, Eva, Pauline (twin to Paul) and Fannie and 6 boys Paul, Buster, Carl, Pete, Walter Jr. and Bill. His parents were Peter Bosarge Born 1842 Dauphin Island Ala. Died 11/23/1915 in McDonald Mo. Mother was Mattie Murry Born 4/1860.

Family links:
Peter Bosarge (1842 – 1915)

Spouse: Frankie Viola Ross / Lee Bosarge (1883 – 1964)* Children: Fannie Lee Bosarge Saffel (1911 – 1988)* Harrie Bosarge Hays (1912 – 1937)* Pauline Bosarge (1913 – 1915)* Paul Bosarge (1913 – 1976)* Buster Brown Bosarge (1917 – 1984)* Carl Edwin Bosarge (1920 – 1997)* Walter Bosarge (1929 – 1932)* Franklin Delano Bosarge (1933 – 1991)* Siblings: Walter Bosarge (1881 – 1947) Lillie May Bosarge Barnett (1881 – 1958)* Lee Bosarge (1888 – 1963)* Carl Bosarge (1893 – 1916)*

*Calculated relationship

Red Hill Cemetery
Lamar County
Texas, USA

Created by: Judie Bosarge Gillaspy
Record added: Oct 10, 2011
Find A Grave Memorial# 78173586 for peter bosarge
Birth: 1842
Dauphin Island
Mobile County
Alabama, USA
Death: Nov. 23, 1915
McDonald County
Missouri, USA

Peter,was a Civil war veteran. He joined the Confederate Army on Feb.22,1862 at Camp Goodwin in Mobile Ala. He was in C Co.32nd. Ala.under Thomas S. Eaton. He fought in the battles of Trenches of Jackson, Missionary Ridge and 2nd.battle of Murfreeboro Tenn.(Stone’s River) Peter was wounded during the engagement of Murfreesboro and reported missing on a report of Adams Brigade dated Dec.31,1862. In fact he had been wounded and was captured on Jan.1st,1863 and sent to Gratiot Street Prison in St. Louis Mo. he arrived there on Jan.21st.1863 according to a report of Feb.1st.1863. While in prison he was made to swear and sign The Oath of Renouncation and Pledge of Allegiance. On Nov.23rd.1863 the 32nd and the 58th were consolidated after the 58th had lost so many men at Chickamauga. His Co. surrendered on May 4th,1865 at Spanish Fort in Meridian,Miss. under Col.Bush Jones. He was married on 8/26/1877 to Martha Mattie Murry, in Barry County Missouri,(later divorced) this union produced 5 children they were:
Lillie B.1881, Walter B.1883,( My Grand Father) Lola B.1886, Lee B.1888 and Carl B.1894

Family links:
Sedoine Bosarge (1805 – 1875)
Amelia Frounier Bosarge (1811 – 1851)

Children: Lillie May Bosarge Barnett (1881 – 1958)* Walter Bosarge (1881 – 1947)* Lee Bosarge (1888 – 1963)* Carl Bosarge (1893 – 1916)* Siblings: Mary Bosarge Williams (1832 – 1908)* Louise Bosarge Ladnier (1835 – 1903)* Peter Bosarge (1842 – 1915) Ardele Bosarge Raley (1847 – 1915)*

*Calculated relationship

Antioch Cemetery
McDonald County
Missouri, USA

Created by: Judie Bosarge Gillaspy
Record added: Feb 21, 2012
Find A Grave Memorial# 85287046

you might check with an AL tribe, such as the MOWA tribe.

1920 United States Federal Census about Walter Bosarge
Name: Walter Bosarge
[Walter Ba??arge]
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Texas
Home in 1920: Justice Precinct 8, Lamar, Texas
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Frankie Bosarge
Father’s Birthplace: Texas
Mother’s Birthplace: Texas
Home owned: Rent
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Walter Bosarge 37
Frankie Bosarge 26
Harry Bosarge 8
Paul Bosarge 6
Buster B Bosarge 2
[2 6/12]
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Justice Precinct 8, Lamar, Texas; Roll: T625_1827; Page: 12A; Enumeration District: 124; Image: 1173.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1940 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records. the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period. federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2)

there is a difference between tribal heritage and tribal enrollment.

find your relative in the 1900-1940 census. this will give you locations, family members, dates that you will need for looking on the dawes roll, taken 1896-1906 in the state of oklahoma/indian territory. the dawes roll lists applicants to the five major tribes of oklahoma. use the accessgenealogy website to do this or ancestrypaths:
get family group/card#, members of the family:
partial surnames ok. just enter the surname.
partial names might not be found on this website.

find a possible name, click on the # in the card# column and this will show you the family group as of application. use the 1900 and 1910 census to match the names. write down the names, card#.

if you don’t find your family, then look at the 1900-1940 census locations for your family, look for nearby tribes. contact the nearby tribes to see if your family had enrolled. find out membership criteria for that tribe. there are tribes in other locations and other choctaw tribes. location is an important factor over whether a native enrolled in a tribe. you won’t find that an original enrollee enrolled in the choctaw tribe in oklahoma if they were living in another state, for instance. if your family was renting in 1910, for instance, they had not received a land grant from one of the five major tribes in oklahoma and were probably not enrolled. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes are on the dawes roll.

many natives did not want to live under tribal authority or didn’t qualify for enrollment or could not submit satisfactory evidence to a tribe. this is very common. it means that your family is not enrolled in a tribe.

there were a few natives that were enrolled by tribal council approval or lawsuit. i don’t have any way to tell you whether someone was enrolled because of this. you would have to contact the tribe for this information. however, some people have posted this answer and you might be able to use google on your family names and see this.

supposing you find your family in the dawes roll, then look at the oklahoma historical society dawes website and put in the name of someone in that family group that you found on accessgenealogy. this will give you the enrollment # if the enrollment was successful. write down the enrollment #s for your family.

if you found your family on the dawes roll, you might want a copy of the dawes packet. four sources for this:

1) once you have the card#, search here for documents. the website is free at this time:
arranged by card#. use the slider bar at the bottom to approximate your card#. the packets are arranged in order of card#. usually the beginning document references the card#.

there may be more than one card# for a particular person, depending on whether they were a parent at the time of enrollment.

sometimes a family’s consideration also depends on an earlier decision in their family. so you may have more than one card# to look up.

2) is an online subscription resource and one month’s subscription is less than the price of a dawes packet at NARA or oklahoma historical society.

3) NARA fort worth, TX office
4) oklahoma historical society

a dawes packet contains census card, enrollment application, supporting documents and maybe testimony. even if your family was not enrolled, the genealogical information might be of interest to you.

the enrolled members are referred to as original enrollees. if your family had enrolled by blood then you are eligible to enroll in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. all tribes have membership criteria. if your family had been enrolled as freedman, then they were enrolled as former slaves and their descendants were not eligible to enroll in the tribe.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA try the fort worth, TX office.

requirements for enrollment for several oklahoma tribes:
What are tribal membership requirements?

Tribal enrollment criteria are set forth in tribal constitutions, articles of incorporation or ordinances. The criterion varies from tribe to tribe, so uniform membership requirements do not exist.

Two common requirements for membership are lineal decendency from someone named on the tribe’s base roll or relationship to a tribal member who descended from someone named on the base roll. (A “base roll” is the original list of members as designated in a tribal constitution or other document specifying enrollment criteria.) Other conditions such as tribal blood quantum, tribal residency, or continued contact with the tribe are common.

enrollment is a two step process. first you have to get your CDIB card from the BIA to show your degree of blood/eligibility to enroll in a particular tribe, and then you have to apply to the tribe for acceptance, if you meet their membership requirements.

Tribal Government personnel, usually an Enrollment Clerk, located at a regional or agency office processes applications for Certificates of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) and Indian Preference in Employment, BIA Form 4432, to anyone who can provide documentation that he or she descends from an American Indian tribe.
this article has many resources.
however i find the paragraph on “Recognition for individuals” to be somewhat insensitive.

i think someone should rewrite that paragraph.

What are the most typical requirements for membership?
Each tribe has a base roll which was established, usually, in the early 20th century, listing the members of the tribe at that time. Your first challenge will be to prove direct lineal descent from someone listed on that base roll. Then
you must prove that you have the required level of blood quantum – the percentage of your genetic make-up that is native by bloodline. Most tribes require a 1/4 blood quantum – that is, you must be at least one-fourth Native
American – but note that the Eastern Band of the Cherokees requires that you be only 1/16 or higher to join, and the Cherokee Nation and Choctaw tribe have no minimum quantum restriction, so long as you can prove descent. There may be other conditions for membership as well: requirements for tribal residency or continued contact with the tribe are common.

choctaw enrollment, forms, FAQs

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:

social security application for a deceased person:
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3.
there is an 1860 and 1885 census in the indian territory

accessgenealogy’s collection of information: if you are from another tribe, use the links at the right.
if you are from an associated tribe, see the several possible links on the webpage.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on or
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try or ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA ( are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment. some mississippi choctaw were accepted by adoption or lawsuit.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants on the dawes roll can be found here:
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

freedmen information:

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family. other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
other resources are NARA

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
(Record Group 75)
this has a search but you may have to read the whole edition of a newspaper to find your search match.
the search term will be highlighted. the newspapers (location and years) are limited, so you might want to search for the location and look at years available.
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.
you can try school records in the oklahoma state archives, the oklahoma historical society and NARA.
these two resources might have historical newspapers and local history books. your public library/interlibrary loan program might also have access to newspapers and local history books.

as for stories, you can see if any of the relatives are mentioned in the oklahoma pioneer papers or oklahoma chronicles.
volumes are alphabetical by surname.
if an interview is not online, contact the host of these interviews.

as for location for your family, you should look on the federal census 1900-1940 for your family and this will give you locations, family members. your local public library probably has a subscription to and heritage quest.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
some obituaries:

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes.

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
calculations about blood quantum:

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society
marriage records

other historical societies:
some oklahoma genealogical societies:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

tribes in other locations:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
see the menu at left. you can download it. you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw were not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page

and this might be of interest to you:
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

you may want to make a heritage book.

good family tree software:
i use legacy. the free basic edition is great for the beginning and helps you organize.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on May 15, 2014 for fannie saffel
Fannie Lee “Billie” Bosarge Saffel

Birth: May 18, 1911
Lamar County
Texas, USA
Death: May 1, 1988
Choctaw County
Oklahoma, USA

Family links:
Walter Bosarge (1881 – 1947)
Frankie Viola Ross / Lee Bosarge (1883 – 1964)

Siblings: Fannie Lee Bosarge Saffel (1911 – 1988) Harrie Bosarge Hays (1912 – 1937)* Paul Bosarge (1913 – 1976)* Pauline Bosarge (1913 – 1915)* Buster Brown Bosarge (1917 – 1984)* Carl Edwin Bosarge (1920 – 1997)* Walter Bosarge (1929 – 1932)* Franklin Delano Bosarge (1933 – 1991)*

*Calculated relationship

Springs Chapel Cemetery
Choctaw County
Oklahoma, USA
Plot: Sec.5 block 1

Created by: Judie Bosarge Gillaspy
Record added: Oct 11, 2013
Find A Grave Memorial# 118528027