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Walla Tanka/ AKA William Goings

Bill Goins Bill Goins

posted on November 20, 2010

I am searching for some information about my great grandfather William Goins. William Goins Ada Baker and lived on land alloted to him around Stigler Ok. William died of tuberculosisand I have no record of his father. While conducting a name search I discover the story of Walla Tonka AKA William Goings. The hand written copy of the census records my great grandfather as William Goings. I know that these are two different people but it seems odd that my great grandfather would choose the name of such an infamous person. I know that they were contemporaries of one another and my great grandfather would know who Walla Tonka was. Are they father and son or is there a relationship? Thank you for your help

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 20, 2010

no dates in your post. it sounds like his spouse was ada baker. no children listed. i don’t know how you concluded that walla tonka was william goings or if this is the same person as your relative.

is this your relative?
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Matoy, Bryan, Oklahoma; Roll: T625_1454; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 32; Image: 760.

walla tonka was the choctaw name of william goins. i don’t know if this is your relative.
Cooperstown confidential: heroes, rogues, and the inside story of the …
By Zev Chafets, Zeʼev Chafets
see page 78 and 79 of this book. you can probably get it copied through interlibrary loan.. see your local library for this.
written 2009.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/search?index=books&linkCode=qs&keywords=1596915455

since there were no dates, no children in your post, i don’t think i can determine anything else from the post.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Bill Goins Bill Goins

posted on November 22, 2010

Suzanne,
Thank you and God bless you for your efforts. I am forever in your debt.
Billy James Goins II

Gen Gen

posted on December 19, 2010

There are lots of Goin, Goins, Goings, Going in area and they used same names over and over in several generations. There was also a major feud going on between Goins/Goings and Durant’s. Durant’s got Goings kicked off Choctaw Rolls right before the big land payment even tho the Goings had been forcefully removed from MS and voted as Choctaws in OK. Eli W. Crowder married first a Durant and then later a Goings.

The execution of William Goings was rushed thru supposedly in defiance of Curtis Act, but the person in charge of execution, a Durant descendant, that marked the heart for the sheriff to shoot may have botched it on purpose, or else the sheriff was nervous as US Marshals were being held off at gunpoint in order to get the execution done.. At any rate, it wasn’t a clean shot, and as William Goings lay writhing in pain and taking too long to die for those in charge, water was poured down his throat to try to kill him faster. This may be one of the first documented cases of water boarding.

So far noone has pieced together all the branches of Goins/Goings that were Choctaw Indians. It’s been made harder due to gap from when they were Choctaw Indians and when they weren’t. It was pretty common to get your fellow Choctaw kicked off rolls if ya wanted land he was using.

Gen Gen

posted on December 19, 2010 and updated on December 19, 2010

Forgot, when some of the Goings tried to get back on Choctaw Rolls with the Dawes enrollment, the Durant family objected to them being enrolled. The Durant’s were told to come before the commission but they didn’t come and instead sent a written affidavit.

It is also interesting to note that William Goings that was executed, his execution was post-poned several times so that he could participate in stickball games. His execution was carried by papers all over US as no one could believe it would be done to such a famous ball player that won games for the Choctaw Nation, and who was also on circus -travelling show circuits with famous western legends..