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dlandis dlandis

posted on November 18, 2010

Well first off , rumor has it im part choctaw. I really dont know if I am or am not. I was told it comes from my grandpas side. His name was Lee Landis. I dont know if that means anything or not. Im gonna keep searching for information, but if anyone has information on the Landis name being associated with choctaw, the information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks dlandis

suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on November 19, 2010

there are no dates or location in your post. no spouse or children. you don’t know if he might have been choctaw through his mother or his father,, or maybe there was another tribe that he might have been associated with.

i don’t know if this is your relative:
Social Security Death Index
about Lee R. Landis
Name: Lee R. Landis
SSN: 443-20-5180
Born: 29 Jan 1923
Died: 29 May 1983
State (Year) SSN issued: Oklahoma (Before 1951)

the dates of birth and death, location, spouse and childrens’ names are the first thing to try to figure out. anyone who passed away after 1/1/1937 filed a social security application and this would have also applied to his parents. they had to show proof of age and many times they submitted a delayed birth certificate. you should get a copy of his and his parents’ birth certificates.

if that social security death record is your relative, it appears his father was on the dawes roll.
1930 United States Federal Census
about Lee Taudis
Name: Lee Taudis
[Lee Landis]
Home in 1930: Bryan, Coal, Oklahoma
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Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1923
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s name: William H Taudis
Mother’s name: Jessie Taudis
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military Service:

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Age at first marriage:

Parents’ birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
William H Taudis 36
Jessie Taudis 29
Orval Taudis 13
Alvin Taudis 11
Davis Taudis 9
Lee Taudis 7
Gail Taudis 5
Deloris Taudis 1 4/12
Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Bryan, Coal, Oklahoma; Roll: 1898; Page: 5B; Enumeration District: 6; Image: 612.0.

there was another lee landis in oklahoma, so i don’t know which onne might be your relative
1910 United States Federal Census
about Lee Laudis
Name: Lee Laudis
[Lee Landis]
Age in 1910: 15
Estimated birth year: abt 1895
Birthplace: Oklahoma
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father’s name: John S Laudis
Father’s Birth Place: Missouri
Mother’s name: Etla Laudis
Mother’s Birth Place: Iowa
Home in 1910: Blaine, Garfield, Oklahoma
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members:
Name Age
John S Laudis 44
Etla Laudis 32
Lee Laudis 15
Guy Laudis 13
John Laudis 2
Harry Eugmire 16
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Blaine, Garfield, Oklahoma; Roll: T624_1251; Page: 3A; Enumeration District: 3; Image: 412.

i don’t now if lee is a middle name or a nickname either.

and if he lived somewhere else other than oklahoma, there are several lee landis records in the united states.

there were landis records on the dawes roll:
Dawes Results
Total Records: 7 Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Landis Carrie Ann 1 F 1/8 4592 NR THURMAN BB
Choctaw Landis Clara A 23 F 1/4 4592 NR THURMAN BB
Choctaw Landis Harry Eidmon 1 M 1/8 4592 NR THURMAN BB
Choctaw Landis Joseph E 2 M 1/8 4592 NR THURMAN BB
Choctaw Landis Saml 0 M 4592 P
Choctaw Landis Syrena M 1 F 1/8 4592 NR THURMAN BB
Choctaw Landis Wm H 6 M 1/8 4592 NR THURMAN BB
p-parent
bb-by blood

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

2 ways to search:
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/finalroll.php
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.

http://www.okhistory.org/research/dawes/index.php
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
http://choctawnation.com/services/departments/community-services/

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choctaw_Trail_of_Tears

http://www.choctaw.org/

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:
http://www.jenachoctaw.org/

MOWA tribe
http://encyclopediaofalabama.org/face/Article.jsp?id=h-1368
http://www.uab.edu/uabmagazine/2009/july/losttribe
http://www.native-american-online.org/MOWA-Choctaw.htm
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail: chieftaylor@mowachoctaw.com

texas tribes
http://www.native-languages.org/texas.htm
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/texas/index.htm
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.texasindians.com/
http://www.lsjunction.com/places/indians.htm

oklahoma tribes:
http://500nations.com/Oklahoma_Tribes.asp
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/oklahoma/index.htm
http://www.cowboy.net/native/tribes.html

some links for the choctaw.
http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/tribes/choctaw/index.htm
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
http://www.okgenweb.org/~okgarvin/kinard/1860index.htm
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter

good advice about native research:
http://jenniferhsrn2.homestead.com/research2.html

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, shamlet76@gmail.com and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto