Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma

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Charles E. Bacon

Elgie Ellis Bacon Elgie Ellis Bacon

posted on January 29, 2014 and updated on May 31, 2014

I am trying to find my grandfather, Charles E. Bacon. I have no info on him other than he married, Christine Rull, my grandmother in 1914 in San Mateo, CA. My father, Ellis R. Bacon was born there. My search has led me to names found within the Chactaw Nation. I am looking for any help, from any source. Thank you.

Daly City Record
March 20 1914
Location: Daly City
Source: Daly City Library – Serramonte Branch
Description: General Transciption
Daly City Record
March 20, 1914
Daly City, San Mateo County, California
Vol. 5 No. 51 Friday, March 20, 1914
The following marriage license was issued at San Rafael Friday: Charles E. BACON, aged 26, and Christine S. RUL, aged 25, both of Redwood City.

Elgie Ellis Bacon


suzanne hamlet shatto suzanne hamlet shatto

posted on January 30, 2014

the picture link is broken. the choctaw tribe are working on the fix. but don’t expect that it will occur soon.

there is a choctaw tribe in california. were your relatives part of that tribe?
i think this is the link for them.
find out the membership requirements and whether your ancestors were members of their tribe. i don’t know if they have state or federal recognition or are in process.

do you have a death certificate for charles and christine? this would start giving you some information. state vital records for that.
cemetery record: or and then contact the cemetery to see if there is more information.
obituary: see your local public library/interlibrary loan program for that. this can list relatives and locations and dates.

California, Death Index, 1940-1997 about Charles E Bacon
Name: Charles E Bacon
Social Security #: 553181736
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1884
Birth Place: Wisconsin
Death Date: 9 Jul 1963
Death Place: Orange
Mother’s Maiden Name: Newell

i don’t know if this is your relative.
Charles Earl Bacon
Birth: Jan. 10, 1882
Fond du Lac County
Wisconsin, USA
Death: Jul. 9, 1963
Orange County
California, USA

Family links:
Frederick Edward Bacon (1860 – 1919)
Jennie Newell Bacon (1862 – 1941)

Spouse: Ida E. Raprager Bacon (1883 – 1883)

Loma Vista Memorial Park
Orange County
California, USA

this says there is a spouse named ida. so i am not certain it is your relative.

and this census goes with this record. maybe this is the wrong person. you need to post much more identifying information because this information is not sufficient.

1920 United States Federal Census about Ida L Bacon
Name: Ida L Bacon
Age: 36
Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1920: Fullerton, Orange, California
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital status: Married
Spouse’s Name: Charles E Bacon
Father’s Birthplace: Wisconsin
Mother’s Birthplace: Germany
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles E Bacon 36
Ida L Bacon 36
Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Fullerton, Orange, California; Roll: T625_123; Page: 10A; Enumeration District: 58; Image: 573.

there are no children, and only this one document. charles bacon’s name is very common. i don’t know if they lived elsewhere. i don’t know why you think these people are connected with the choctaw tribe of oklahoma.

maybe ellis is a child of these parents. i don’t know.

i am not seeing any family trees with ellis bacon, father charles, mother christine, birthdate near 1920 or so.

how is this document connected?

is this your ellis bacon?

Ellis R. Bacon
Birth: Apr. 16, 1915
Death: Jan. 22, 1983


Denison Cemetery
McCurtain County
Oklahoma, USA

Created by: Sandie Manning Lambert
Record added: Apr 13, 2007
Find A Grave Memorial# 18917166

living in oklahoma does not grant you membership in a tribe. business opportunities and oklahoma land rushes were drawing people to the state. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma. and by 1900, there were over a million people living in indian territory or oklahoma. oklahoma became a state in 1907.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906 in the state of oklahoma/indian territory and has the names of the applicants of the 5 major tribes. there are about 150,000 people who applied to the five major tribes. some people were rejected, some were given membership, and some people did not have sufficient evidence to be able to submit.

location is an important factor in tribal enrollment. you should look at where your relatives lived 1900-1940 and then see whether there was a nearby tribe.

1940 United States Federal Census about Ellis R Bacon
Name: Ellis R Bacon
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1915
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: California
Marital status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Hired Hand
Home in 1940: Wynooche, Grays Harbor, Washington
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Wynoochee Road
Inferred Residence in 1935: Rural, Pacific, Washington
Residence in 1935: Rural, Pacific, Washington
Resident on farm in 1935: Yes
Sheet Number: 1B
Occupation: Laborer
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 44
Income: 218
Income Other Sources: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John H Taylor 72
Roy Bowman 48
Ellis R Bacon 25
Source Citation: Year: 1940; Census Place: Wynooche, Grays Harbor, Washington; Roll: T627_4341; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 14-106.

land ownership might be an indication of tribal enrollment.

U.S. City Directories, 1821-1989 about Ellis R Bacon
Name: Ellis R Bacon
Gender: Male
Residence Year: 1946
Street Address: 007 State apt O
Residence Place: Centralia; Chehalis, Washington
Occupation: Manager
Spouse: Dorothy Bacon
Publication Title: Centralia, Washington, City Directory, 1946

manager of the hilburger apartments.

rul is usually a mexican name.

i don’t know if this resource would help you.

the dawes roll does contain some information but because the name is very common, i don’t know if it is your relative.

Dawes Card Information
Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Cherokee Bacon Charles H 46 M IW 5070 NR CLAREMORE BB

Cherokee Bacon Charley B 12 M 1/8 5070 12146 CLAREMORE BB

Cherokee Bacon Edna Y 0 F 5070 P

Cherokee Bacon John L 0 M 5070 P

Cherokee Bacon John L 15 M 1/8 5070 12145 CLAREMORE BB

Cherokee Bacon Sarah 0 F 5070 P

Cherokee Bacon William D 19 M 1/8 5070 12144 CLAREMORE BB

bb-by blood

there is also a charles bacon that was 46 at the time of application. and there was a charles bacon that was one year old at the time of application.

i don’t know the middle name of your charles.
Dawes Card Information
Tribe Last First Middle Age Sex Blood Card Roll Misc Type
Choctaw Bacon Ellis 18 M FULL 2154 6226 TALIHINA BB

Choctaw Bacon Luissy 0 F 2154 P

Choctaw Bacon Wilson 0 M 2154 P

if you think this is your relative, then you should get a copy of the dawes packet. sources are 1) a subscription website but the price of a dawes packet online from them are less than the price from other sources, 2) oklahoma historical society, 3) NARA. links for both of these are in this post.

you should have census records that you show the parents living in indian territory by 1900. this will give you family members so that you can match them to records.

tribal affiliation, residence location, and tribal membership are different topics.

genealogists use names, dates, locations, children and spouses to match records. if you have a common surname, you need to give more information rather than less. if you post about women, it is helpful to include the maiden name and the married name and designate which one is the maiden name.

start with what you know, gather documentation, then you can go backward in time. so get your birth certificate, your parents’ birth certificates and marriage license and then you can start on your grandparents. if someone passed away after 1/1/1937, they probably have a social security application on file. if you ask a government agency for a birth certificate, and they were born before 1929, they might have submitted a delayed birth certificate. death certificates, cemetery information and obituaries are helpful. you can usually get a copy of an obituary, newspaper mentions such as birth of a child or marriage, through the interlibrary loan program – see your local public library for this. i usually start with the death and work toward the person’s birth. military records and pension records can be helpful. census records can tell you where they were at particular times, names of family members. the census records up to 1940 are available, although the 1890 census was largely destroyed.

you will need to know who the family members were 1830-1940 or so, where they were located. a good way to do this is by census records.
the first time period to concentrate on is 1900-1930 because most tribes enrolled during this period.
federal census records can help you here. you can get access through your local public library – two databases: 1) heritage quest, 2)

there is a difference between tribal heritage and tribal enrollment.

find your relative in the 1900-1940 census. this will give you locations, family members, dates that you will need for looking on the dawes roll, taken 1896-1906 in the state of oklahoma/indian territory. the dawes roll lists applicants to the five major tribes of oklahoma.
use the accessgenealogy website to do this.
find a possible name, click on the # in the card# column and this will show you the family group as of application. use the 1900 and 1910 census to match the names. write down the names, card#.

if you don’t find your family, then look at the 1900-1940 census locations for your family, look for nearby tribes. contact the nearby tribes to see if your family had enrolled. find out membership criteria for that tribe. there are tribes in other locations and other choctaw tribes. location is an important factor over whether a native enrolled in a tribe. you won’t find that an original enrollee enrolled in the choctaw tribe in oklahoma if they were living in another state, for instance. if your family was renting in 1910, for instance, they had not received a land grant from one of the five major tribes in oklahoma and were probably not enrolled. there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the 5 major tribes are on the dawes roll.

many natives did not want to live under tribal authority or didn’t qualify for enrollment or could not submit satisfactory evidence to a tribe. this is very common. it means that your family is not enrolled in a tribe.

there were a few natives that were enrolled by tribal council approval or lawsuit. i don’t have any way to tell you whether someone was enrolled because of this. you would have to contact the tribe for this information. however, some people have posted this answer and you might be able to use google on your family names and see this.

supposing you find your family in the dawes roll, then look at the oklahoma historical society dawes website and put in the name of someone in that family group that you found on accessgenealogy. this will give you the enrollment # if the enrollment was successful. write down the enrollment #s for your family.

if you found your family on the dawes roll, you might want a copy of the dawes packet. three sources for this: is an online subscription resource and one month’s subscription is less than the price of a dawes packet at NARA or oklahoma historical society.
NARA fort worth, TX office
oklahoma historical society
a dawes packet contains census card, enrollment application, supporting documents and maybe testimony. even if your family was not enrolled, the genealogical information might be of interest to you.

the enrolled members are referred to as original enrollees. if your family had enrolled by blood then you are eligible to enroll in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. all tribes have membership criteria. if your family had been enrolled as freedman, then they were enrolled as former slaves and their descendants were not eligible to enroll in the tribe.

the dawes roll shows the applicants to the five major tribes 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma. if your family applied for this, there would be a census card, dawes application, other supporting documents and testimony. these are located at NARA
try the fort worth, TX office.

requirements for enrollment for several oklahoma tribes:
What are tribal membership requirements?

Tribal enrollment criteria are set forth in tribal constitutions, articles of incorporation or ordinances. The criterion varies from tribe to tribe, so uniform membership requirements do not exist.

Two common requirements for membership are lineal decendency from someone named on the tribe’s base roll or relationship to a tribal member who descended from someone named on the base roll. (A “base roll” is the original list of members as designated in a tribal constitution or other document specifying enrollment criteria.) Other conditions such as tribal blood quantum, tribal residency, or continued contact with the tribe are common.

enrollment is a two step process. first you have to get your CDIB card from the BIA to show your degree of blood/eligibility to enroll in a particular tribe, and then you have to apply to the tribe for acceptance, if you meet their membership requirements.

Tribal Government personnel, usually an Enrollment Clerk, located at a regional or agency office processes applications for Certificates of Degree of Indian Blood (CDIB) and Indian Preference in Employment, BIA Form 4432, to anyone who can provide documentation that he or she descends from an American Indian tribe.
this article has many resources.
however i find the paragraph on “Recognition for individuals” to be somewhat insensitive.

i think someone should rewrite that paragraph.

What are the most typical requirements for membership?
Each tribe has a base roll which was established, usually, in the early 20th century, listing the members of the tribe
at that time. Your first challenge will be to prove direct lineal descent from someone listed on that base roll. Then
you must prove that you have the required level of blood quantum – the percentage of your genetic make-up that
is native by bloodline. Most tribes require a 1/4 blood quantum – that is, you must be at least one-fourth Native
American – but note that the Eastern Band of the Cherokees requires that you be only 1/16 or higher to join, and the Cherokee Nation has no minimum quantum restriction, so long as you can prove descent. There may be other conditions for membership as well: requirements for tribal residency or continued contact with the tribe are common.

choctaw enrollment, forms, FAQs

obituaries through the oklahoma choctaw tribe is through the history link for the tribe:

social security application for a deceased person:
form SS-5.

your public library probably has a subscription to heritage quest and is another useful database for native records and military records, but they are a subscription. however, many times, their month’s subscription price is less than the price of a dawes packet. you can google fold3 and your ancestor’s name to see if your relative’s dawes packet is available at fold3. also has the 1885 census records under US, indian census rolls 1885-1940.

access genealogy’s collection of information
if you are from another tribe, use the links at the right.
if you are from an associated tribe, see the several possible links on the webpage.

bear in mind that many records are not online. always collect documents, as just the reference to a relative in an index informs you that a document is available.

death records:
death certificate: state vital records or if very old, state archives. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. you can look at death indices, such as the social security death index 1964-present for a date of death on or
obituary: see your local public library, interlibrary loan program. ask for the person’s name at the time of death. approximate date of death is helpful. if old, state historical society or state archives might have historical newspapers.
cemetery record: try or ask for the person’s name at the time of death. if you find a relative, you can click on the county or cemetery to see if others with the same surname are buried there.

marriage records:
state vital records office, county clerk or if old, state archives or state historical society.

birth records:
state vital records office, or if old, state archives or state historical society. if the birth was before 1940, ask for a birth certificate or a delayed birth certificate. many people had to get delayed birth certificates when social security came into effect because they had to show proof of age. this will be under the name used at the time of birth.

census records:
you will want to search for census records 1940 on down to the birth of your relative. the federal census was taken every 10 years, however the 1890 census was largely destroyed by fire. there are also some state census records and native census records and native rolls. and heritage quest are two databases that include many census records. many native census records kept by NARA ( are transcribed at accessgenealogy.

first of all, heritage and tribal enrollment are two different things. many times natives didn’t apply for enrollment because 1) they didn’t qualify, 2) they were philosophically opposed to enrollment, 3) they didn’t have documentation, or 4) they were mississippi choctaw and their ancestor had accepted land or benefits in lieu of tribal enrollment. some mississippi choctaw were accepted by adoption or lawsuit.

for those people who do not yet have a card, you should research the 1900-1940 census to know approximate dates of birth, birthplaces, family members. this will also tell you if someone is more likely to be on the freedman roll or as applicants to the dawes roll taken 1896-1906 in indian territory/oklahoma for the five major tribes.

applicants on the dawes roll can be found here:
partial names are ok. look at the guide link for explanation of the codes.

when you find a possible name, then click on the card# in the card column to see the family group. if it is your family group, and they were likely enrolled, then you can search the oklahoma historical society’s dawes roll link to get the enrollment #’s for particular family members.

if your family was enrolled by council action early in the process or was enrolled by lawsuit, they might not appear on the oklahoma historical society website. you would have to check with the tribe on that.

even if your family was rejected by the dawes process, you may want the testimony, census card, application information for your genealogical purposes.

the federal census will also help you decide which state to contact for vital records.

the dawes roll was taken 1896-1906, so you should trace your ancestors down to that time period. mostly, they had to be living in oklahoma by that time and agree to live there permanently.

history of the dawes roll
wikipedia entries are sometimes opinionated; entered by volunteers.

helpful information about tribal enrollment

freedmen information:

2 ways to search:
this will let you enter partial names to get card#. click on the card# in the card column and you can see other names in that family.
other resources on the left and at the bottom of this webpage. native census records and databases are especially useful.
this will give you card# (family group) and enrollment #. they have some native marriage records too. other oklahoma records listed at left.
if your relative was enrolled by court action, their name might not be on this list.
if the name is common, you may find too many possible records.
you can order the dawes packet from the oklahoma historical society website.

if you find a relative listed on the dawes roll, fold3 may have filmed the record and could be available online.
other resources are NARA

the five civilized tribes book put out by the department of the interior has testimony.
and you can read it online

and these are the microfilms at fort worth TX archives.

there may be additional records about your relative:
contact NARA for these and other records listed on this webpage.

75.23.1 Records of the Dawes Commission
75.23.2 Records of the U.S. Indian Inspector for Indian Territory
75.23.3 General records of the Commissioner to the Five Civilized Tribes
(Record Group 75)
oklahoma newspaper and archives search. some of these resources may be available through interlibrary loan/public library.
you can try school records in the oklahoma state archives, the oklahoma historical society and NARA.
these two resources might have historical newspapers and local history books. your public library/interlibrary loan program might also have access to newspapers and local history books.

as for stories, you can see if any of the relatives are mentioned in the oklahoma pioneer papers or oklahoma chronicles.
volumes are alphabetical by surname.
if an interview is not online, contact the host of these interviews.

as for location for your family, you should look on the federal census 1900-1940 for your family and this will give you locations, family members. your local public library probably has a subscription to and heritage quest.

the tribe has an excellent information to help you. it is found under genealogy advocacy.
some obituaries:

NARA federal records repository. the fort worth, TX office has archives for oklahoma and texas tribes. atlanta/morrow office has archives for the southeast tribes. many offices have microfilmed records for several tribes. note that this web address has changed recently from

freedmen info:
You can ONLY apply for Choctaw Nation Membership, AFTER you have obtained a CDIB card proving your Choctaw Blood lineage to a direct ancestor who actually enrolled, BY BLOOD. Freedmen DID NOT enroll By Blood. When US Congress closed the Final Dawes Commission Rolls, there were no provisions granting Freedmen any benefits after the Dawes Commission closed. The tribe Constitution states BY BLOOD. however, the documents (application, census card and testimony) may help you find out more about your heritage.

about blood quantum laws:
calculations about blood quantum:

mississippi choctaw and choctaw tribe explained here:

jena choctaw tribe in louisiana:

MOWA tribe
MOWA Band Of Choctaws Wilford Taylor 1080 Red Fox Road Mount Vernon, AL 36560 (251) 829-5500. E-Mail:

other choctaw tribes:

chickasaw historical society
Historic Preservation and Repatriation Office
Phone: (580) 272-5325
Fax: (580) 272-5327
2020 E. Arlington, Suite 4, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw tribe
Chickasaw Nation Headquarters
520 East Arlington, Ada, OK 74820
Phone (580) 436-2603
Mailing address: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821

chickasaw genealogy archive center Tribal Library
Phone: (580) 310-6477
Fax: (580) 559-0773
1003 Chamber Loop, Ada, OK 74820
send mail to: P.O. Box 1548, Ada, OK 74821
oklahoma historical society
marriage records

other historical societies:
some oklahoma genealogical societies:

texas tribes

oklahoma tribes:

tribes in other locations:

some links for the choctaw.
i looked at the land records and those need a lot of work. i have no information about whether or when they will improve some of these categories.

types of records available for native americans:
pages 366-369 in particular although the entire native american chapter is helpful.
The Genealogist’s Companion and Sourcebook:
Guide to the Resources You Need for Unpuzzling Your Past
Emily Anne Croom
you can ask for these particular pages from your local public library. if they don’t have the book, you can get the pages through the interlibrary loan program.
native american records are discussed in pages 352-386.

Tracing ancestors among the Five Civilized Tribes: Southeastern Indians …
By Rachal Mills Lennon
this book could be accessed through the interlibary loan program also.

always find the state archives. some records are online, some records are not. but many times you can find a record not found in other places. you want to see also about newspaper mentions for obituaries, births, marriages in particular.

check courts for probate, civil and criminal cases, marriage records.

if your ancestors lived on a reservation, they might not appear on a federal census because they were not taxed.
1860 census, indian territory.

this book is a good read about the dawes roll and how they implemented it.
The Dawes Commission and the allotment of the Five Civilized Tribes, 1893-1914
By Kent Carter
and you can read this book online. your relatives’ testimony might be in the book.
see the menu at left. you can download it.
you should look at the enrollment application, census card and testimony. this post will tell you how to do that. these documents will tell you more about your heritage, but it won’t help you if your goal is to be enrolled in the choctaw tribe of oklahoma. some people were classed as mississippi choctaw if the family had a native heritage but didn’t qualify for enrollment in the tribe.

there are 63 tribes in oklahoma but only the five major tribes are on the dawes roll. look at your family’s location around 1900-1930 time period (census will help you there) and see if there was a tribe located nearby. it is possible that your relatives were affiliated with another tribe.

if they were mississippi choctaw, there is probably a land grant in MS/AL to a head of household called choctaw scrip land. this was given in lieu of tribal enrollment 1830-1880 time period. has a database of the MS and AL choctaw scrip land records, called mississippi or alabama land records. there are other land records in those databases too,, so you have to look at the authority/source cited. NARA has those land record packages.

the mississippi choctaw were not removed from oklahoma. but they were largely rejected for tribal enrollment.

this website might help you in your search. some people are trying to transcribe applications.
i do not know what they are trying to transcribe, but this is the volunteer page

and this might be of interest to you:
Rights of Mississippi Choctaws in the Choctaw Nation
Index to the Final Rolls of the Citizens and Freedmen of the Five Civilized Tribes in Indian Territory
the dawes roll is composed of applications to the five major tribes in oklahoma.

good advice about native research:

if your relatives came from a different geographic location or belonged to a different tribe, try searching google for the state and tribes. you might find a contact for a state-recognized tribe or a federal recognized tribe.

this page can help you set up a targeted google search.

penny postcards. this is a website that features pictures that were on postcards. click on the state to see the postcards that they have.
if you have a penny postcard, you can click on submissions to add your penny postcard to the collection.

these searches will combine several possible search terms and give you the best matches.

i have collected many resources over the years. if you want to write to me, and request the choctaw resource list, i will be glad to send it to you.

i am just a volunteer that wants to empower people to learn how to do genealogy.

suzanne hamlet shatto

Elgie Ellis Bacon Elgie Ellis Bacon

posted on May 31, 2014

Thank you, my friend, for all of this great information to help me find my father’s life, and my grandfather’s information. It is very much appreciated.

Ellis Rull Bacon, is listed in this info. He is my father. The information verifies it for me, without a doubt.

Although I was very much hoping to be of Choctaw blood, I am afraid that I am not. At one time, I found the names in the Dawes. Although my father does not look Indian in any way, I much check out every possibility.

I sincerely thank you for this valuable information, which might help me. Sincerely, it means a lot to me. Thank you, my friend.

Always with respect,

Elgie Ellis Bacon